which class uses lvl 3 double class engravings?
As a 1470 Crit/Spec Artillerist main who has enjoyed playing Lost Ark daily since it released in EU/NA, if these changes are implemented I will very likely quit the game and not look back. From reading the Forums and Reddit many other Artillerists are planning on doing the same with others planning on abandoning their Artillerist completely. Go ahead and search Artillerist on Reddit and what I mentioned above will be summarized quickly.
The creator of this thread summarized the main issue quite well. With the changes being SO drastic all Artillerist`s despite their build will be forced to change their setup in some way(Accessories, Engravings, Gems, Tripods etc). That requires a large investment in terms of gold which translates to play time. The fact most gear has to be bought and the gameâs buying system is incredibly bad, its quite clear people who have already geared with relics & engravings and need to make drastic changes for either will just shelve their Artillerists or quit for good. On top of that the changes are so drastic the class will feel completely different to play in many situations, stripping it of the identity many fell in love with.
With the loss of the Crit in Fp(Class Engraving) Crit/Swift Artillerists will be forced to change to a much heavier Crit/Swift split(80/20, 70/30 likely), which will require a large investment for new accessories. Add to that the fact many run both class engravings and the investment to change increases drastically.
Regarding Spec Artillerists simply put the build is completely gutted and not worth playing, unless of course you want to play a stationary transformation build that outputs well below average damage and is punished heavily for a boss moving unlike other transformation classes who able to freely move(Scouter/SH).
If these changes are implemented there will be little reason to play Spec Artillerist, particularly with how much stronger the Crit/Swift build will be. Overall the Crit/Swift build got buffed by quite a margin while the Spec build got heavily nerfed. This all ties back to investment, and for Spec Artillerists the investment to change their setup will be EXTREMLY HIGH, we`re talking months of playtime.
In my opinion these drastic changes show how little the Game Developers consider EU/NA when considering or implementing patches. In Korea where the game has been out drastically longer being forced to change your build is less problematic as the components you need to do so are more available at reasonable prices. In EU/NA where the game has been out for a short time only while progressing through the content at a reasonable pace, having to change your setup is much more problematic and can set you back months. The components to do so are extremely rare and high in cost. Many high iLvl Artillerists would likely have been working towards 5x3, investing a ton of gold, for it all to be changed in a flash equating to months of progression gone for some.
I personally find it a slap to the face as the last six weeks of my progression have been almost completely wasted. I quit honing on my Artillerist six weeks ago to focus on working towards my goal of 5x3(Barricade, Barrage, Fp, Grudge and Hit Master). Up to this point I have bought 20 Legendary Barricade Books and four accessories equating to roughly 350,000-400,000 gold spent. I am one accessory from achieving 5x3, though if these changes are implemented the 350,000-400,000 gold I have spent will almost completely wasted, wiping months of progression in a game that has been out for 5.5 months.
At this point I can only hope they re-consider these drastic and punishing changes, if they dont then I will unfortunately be quitting. To invest so much effort and time to work towards a goal, for it then to be stripped away due to an unnecessary class over-haul is a terrible feeling and honestly should be concerning for the future. Lost Ark is extremely restrictive when it comes to changing your setup unlike many other MMOs, drastic class changes like this just punish the players playing said class, particularly when the game has been out for 5.5 months only. Imagine your class is changed completely in the future, wasting the 400,000 gold you spent to reach 5x3 while also completely changing how the class you love plays and feels, the likely result would being demoralized.
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Hawkeye for one.
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We wonât complain about this one cus itâs not strong, eh?
Also, claiming shit is an exploit when itâs been part of the stable meta for the good part of a year is just ridiculous.
Not cool. iâm offended.
Soulfist can use double engraving too and nobody runs it. Just because something is possible doesnât mean itâs broken wtf are you on aboutâŚ
Running 2 class engravings should not be viable period. This erases the common sense of class choices and playstyles. It is simply not even fair that some classes can use class at lvl 1 and it gives almost full value, and that some other classes benefit a lot from using 2 class at lvl 3. Must be changed - thanks God we can see the progress.
This is so wrong. INVEN is on fire with people complaining about the changes. Their investment is even more expensive than ours.
Artillerist will still do this. They will not give up 20% damage reduction from Firepower. Why do you guys even bother commenting if you have no idea what youâre talking about?
Running two class engravings should be fine, considering the values of other things are in check equating to overall similar damage of other classes. If Spec Artillerist was too strong they could have easily just lowered damage values instead of completely overhauling the class and erasing months of progression for many, while also buffing Crit/Swift to bring it more in line with other Classes/Builds as it was below par.
The fact you even mentioned that it erases the choices of playstyle shows how little you know of Artillerist though. A Crit/Swift Artillerist plays so much differently than a Spec Artillerist, you feel like youre playing a completely different class. That alone is easily summarized by the fact that many Artillerist chose to stay Crit/Swift despite Spec being SO much stronger.
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Thanks for informing me, definitely good to know. I can only hope with so much complaints that they revert these terrible changes.
Bro just give up. They have no idea what you are talking about and they know nothing about arti or other classes to begin with. They just think using only lvl 1 is broken and using 2 lvl 3 is broken because they donât know any better and have no brains.
These people are just happy that itâs not their class thatâs being gutted and now they flock here to shit on you to make themselves feel even better.
I have no idea what you are talking about. Running class 2 should not be viable, glad to see the progress in this area. If not fixed in this patch then at least we see the direction of their attempts. Re-read until you understand each word before commenting again.
Kekw.
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I donât even main Arti. Itâs just a terrible rework and demolishes months of progression for a lot of people. I donât want to see my friends quit because they just got slapped with a 200k gold fine and had the playstyle of their class change overnight. Absolute nonsense.
If the game had more options to flip your gear, tripods, gems, etc. then we wouldnât even be having this discussion, but wiping months of progression is not at all equivalent to respeccing in other MMOs.
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This unfortunately is the main issue, months of progression wiped in a game that has been out for 5.5 months in EU/NA. If these changes go through its at least 400,000 gold down the drain for myself. Lost Ark is far too punishing in terms of changing your setup to push such drastic changes in my opinion which I mentioned above. Other MMOs you dont get punished for class over-hauls like you would in Lost Ark.
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Yeah I donât play arti at all and still think the rework sucks. I can totally get the frustration like thatâs all gold arti players could have spent on honing or quality upgrades or card packs or whatever. Itâs nuts that people come here saying itâs exploiting the game and it should not be viable and shit like that.
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We need to raise pitchforks and march on Smilegate Headquarters⌠all these Sharpshooters are getting away with murder.
To put what you said into perspective more, I stopped honing on my 1470 Artillerist six weeks ago to focus on working towards my goal of 5x3. In the six weeks I have bought 20 Legendary Barricade Books and bought four accessories equating to roughly 400,000 gold spent while sparingly buying gem chests and other essential upgrade materials. Many other Artillerist would be in a similar situation, or even worse.
As I mentioned in a previous post its a concerning sign for the future as Lost Ark is far too punishing to push such drastic class changes. Imagine this happening to your class one month from now after spending 400,000+ gold, anyone would feel demoralized. I dont understand how people think this is acceptable, though saying that everyone has their opinions. Im just saying I wouldnt want this to happen to any other class as its months of progression wasted for the players of that class.
I have played this game daily since it released, missing a few days only and I feel demoralized over these possible changes, I cant imagine what a more casual Artillerist player would feel like.
Man I feel sorry for you and hope they revert it and you are right like balance changes should be about tuning characters not reworking them. If a rework is being done smilegate should give heads up months before the actual rework. Just tell the playerbase you know maybe 2 months prior that hey your class is going to be entirely reworked. It would still suck but at least players would know that itâs coming. Making shit up on the spot and releasing some patch notes 2 weeks before it goes live is just asshole on every level.