Please have in mind that RMT company workers, although earning little by western standards, are not free labor. Their wages are not that shabby when compared to the local economies.
How? It would push players to have only one source of “purchasing gold.” They most likely arent seeing it from a pure business perspective. A healthy business perspective is preserving the longevity of the game.
I would disagree, If they take a hard stance now, people who want to spend money might think twice about cheating in the future. I would wager there are plenty of people that would have spent money on this game that flat out quit because of the amount of bots. Imagine if AGS went out of the gate with a zero tolerance policy, sure tons of people would have gotten banned, but lots of people that ended up RMTing down the line would probably not have done so, and may have even went through with buying gold the legit way.
I dont want to play with cheaters at all, and I think a lot of people would feel much better if they were just removed from the game and or punished severely.
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This. They shouldn’t have given any speculation of a second chance for RMT players. Those that would complain about not having a second chance wouldn’t be in the right regardless.
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In game crystals for gold is determined by the player…
Not amazon
I hate bots too, they will eventually destroy this game.
I am already pissed by spending time in many areas where I only see bots and no one else beside myself.
The 238 royal crystals rate is set by AGS/SG.
That logic also doesn’t make any sense. Also you must be a gold buyer because you seem to be doing a lot of justifying here.
The game doesn’t work like that nor should it.
If an item is being cap at 5g for example, no lower or higher is possible:
Bot will sell in order to get gold - They will never buy.
Players will also do the same. The benefits here is because it is 1:1 you have players fighting the bot instead. Meaning that player can give bot the gold to hold and they in turn get the item to upgrade and move to the next tier to make more gold, thus outpace the bot.
So someone earlier brought up a good point. If we make it so that 1:1 is being kept until Legion raid gold to give players a huge amount, then bot cannot undercut the players anymore.
Let’s take fish as an example
Let assume 10,000 bot is fishing, and the cap of these fish are being set at 5g. No matter what, if player also do fishing, the fish will also net them 5g.
Now if player want to buy fish for their usages, it’s still 5g. Meaning there’s no reason to do RMT. The importance part is that because we also have trade → player can instantly undercut the bot price instead and trade directly to other players for 4g.
I don’t know how well this would work with accessories however. The core idea is that give power to players to undercut the bot prices, then it will make whatever bot is earning become useless.
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Please avoid false accusations.
If you do not understand what I am saying, please make an effort.
I am not justifying RMT companies, I am trying to understand the best way possible to beat them.
All measures enforced by AGS/SG to curb the bot problem have failed up until now.
We need to consider all available alternatives and find a solution.
AGS isn’t supposed to be competiting with 3rd party RMT. Additionally that’s a losing battle.
The problem is AGS/SG are competing with RMT companies for the players real money until AGS/SG can solve the bot problem.
And there are no losing battles, only losers that give up at the first setback…
It seems the VPN ban failed, time for an economic war…
Gold price through currency exchange (20€ = 4500 gold 
) is insane im not blaming people getting it from somewhere else.
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What OP says, and then earn from us via cosmetics. Go ahead and sell them at POE prices. People will buy.
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Think of it like this. When the rates of crystals to gold increases, people who want to buy gold from bots would buy from the shop is what you are saying right? When this happens, it is made so that this decreases the ratio of crystal to gold as more people trade real crystal to gold. So eventually, the prices would go back down lower than the bots rates if it is even possible to go under the bots rates.
Why not set the rate of crystals to gold permanently the same? Well, then there would be an influx of too much gold in the system from players buying it with crystals, while skewing and making it harder for those with gold to transfer into the crystals. So it becomes very one sided, and ruins the economy, which is what you are trying to fix when you combat bots anyways
The rate of crystals to gold is already fixed at 238. The only variation is the amount of gold per 238 crystals, driven by players economy.
If AGS/SG decreases the number 238 to a lower number of crystals the gold via in-game shop would be cheaper and closer to the price of RMT companies.
Right now the difference between gold via in-game shop and RMT companies is so big that a lot of people dont think twice…
I’ve been saying for weeks now, it’s about supply & demand. Economics 101. Curb the demand and supply will suffer. In this case, permaban RMT buyers, then bot commanders have no one to sell to. Apparently this basic principle of business eludes AGS management.
From a pure business perspective, AGS/SG would be banning the players willing to use real money in the game. It is better to make these players to use their money on gold from in-game shop. AGS/SG do not want to have only free-to-play players playing this game…
You might be right, but look at it this way, they are banning players they know certainly are cheating. Whether or not these players are willing to spend money ingame is up for debate.
Also consider, how many people are not interested in financially supporting a game that does little to nothing to stop cheaters?
How many threads on the forum begging for more skins and cosmetics? There is plenty of people willing to spend money, AGS simply need to give people what they are actually asking for.