"It's the economy, stupid." Quote by James Carville in 1992

Bots have a limit.
AGS/SG just tweak the rates of pixel goods and with it get much more money through the in-game shop even after lowering their margin because they will sell what bots are selling now…

Who decides that the amount of crystals is 238 to trade for gold?

AGS/SG can tweak that rate.

Inflation would not be affected because what AGS/SG would be doing is to steal business from bots. Instead of people buying gold from RMT companies, everyone would buy from the in-game shop. The amount of gold in the economy would be roughly the same, limited by the available real money income of the player base.

They can tweak that, but the end result would probably end up being the same. more people would buy RC to convert, because of the influx of people doing that I would imagine amount of gold you get per trade would eventually decrease to the point where its essentially the same value.

Im not an econ major or anything, but to me it just seems like that would just be a bandaid. If it was up to me my solution would be to crack down hard on buyers with zero tolerance policy. if everyone who rmts gets severely punished I think that would do serious damage to the amount of bots we see.

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Or they finally figure out how to purge bots, and they will sell more at original price and do even better… I wonder which option they will try for.
Bots do have limits, but is that limit AGS willing to go for? If bots (technically free labor) no longer make profit, I highly doubt that AGS/SG would be staying net positive at that point.

I think cap item at a certain price also will help. The reason is instead of paying higher or lower, bot cannot undercut item value.

For example let say the market is set for leap stone at 10g each and you cannot go lower or higher. Then everyone who want to sell x item for gold will earn exactly 10g, bot will earn the same.

Just have a harder stance on RMTers thats it, thats the economical solution you are looking for.

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From a pure business perspective, AGS/SG taking an hard stance on customers willing to spend real money to play this game would not be very smart because will reduce the potential available real money to be spent in the game.

What AGS/SG need to do is to go after that real money that is presently being spent at RMT companies.

Please have in mind that RMT company workers, although earning little by western standards, are not free labor. Their wages are not that shabby when compared to the local economies.

How? It would push players to have only one source of “purchasing gold.” They most likely arent seeing it from a pure business perspective. A healthy business perspective is preserving the longevity of the game.

I would disagree, If they take a hard stance now, people who want to spend money might think twice about cheating in the future. I would wager there are plenty of people that would have spent money on this game that flat out quit because of the amount of bots. Imagine if AGS went out of the gate with a zero tolerance policy, sure tons of people would have gotten banned, but lots of people that ended up RMTing down the line would probably not have done so, and may have even went through with buying gold the legit way.

I dont want to play with cheaters at all, and I think a lot of people would feel much better if they were just removed from the game and or punished severely.

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This. They shouldn’t have given any speculation of a second chance for RMT players. Those that would complain about not having a second chance wouldn’t be in the right regardless.

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In game crystals for gold is determined by the player…

Not amazon

I hate bots too, they will eventually destroy this game.

I am already pissed by spending time in many areas where I only see bots and no one else beside myself.

The 238 royal crystals rate is set by AGS/SG.

That logic also doesn’t make any sense. Also you must be a gold buyer because you seem to be doing a lot of justifying here.

The game doesn’t work like that nor should it.

If an item is being cap at 5g for example, no lower or higher is possible:

Bot will sell in order to get gold - They will never buy.

Players will also do the same. The benefits here is because it is 1:1 you have players fighting the bot instead. Meaning that player can give bot the gold to hold and they in turn get the item to upgrade and move to the next tier to make more gold, thus outpace the bot.

So someone earlier brought up a good point. If we make it so that 1:1 is being kept until Legion raid gold to give players a huge amount, then bot cannot undercut the players anymore.

Let’s take fish as an example

Let assume 10,000 bot is fishing, and the cap of these fish are being set at 5g. No matter what, if player also do fishing, the fish will also net them 5g.

Now if player want to buy fish for their usages, it’s still 5g. Meaning there’s no reason to do RMT. The importance part is that because we also have trade → player can instantly undercut the bot price instead and trade directly to other players for 4g.

I don’t know how well this would work with accessories however. The core idea is that give power to players to undercut the bot prices, then it will make whatever bot is earning become useless.

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Please avoid false accusations.

If you do not understand what I am saying, please make an effort.

I am not justifying RMT companies, I am trying to understand the best way possible to beat them.

All measures enforced by AGS/SG to curb the bot problem have failed up until now.

We need to consider all available alternatives and find a solution.

AGS isn’t supposed to be competiting with 3rd party RMT. Additionally that’s a losing battle.

The problem is AGS/SG are competing with RMT companies for the players real money until AGS/SG can solve the bot problem.

And there are no losing battles, only losers that give up at the first setback…

It seems the VPN ban failed, time for an economic war…:slight_smile: