Banning gold mailing would also be a benefit in that the gold seller needs to through extra hurdles if they want to concetrate gold to one mule. Or if they can’t do that, then they would need buy more items from player who wants to buy gold. As mentioned originally, this complicates things for gold seller and buyer, making it harder to earn money from game => hopefully less bots.
Other thing in complaining against this in this thread, is surprising amount of people thinking that AH monitoring would be hard. You are using computers and computers are kind of made for things like this. As game already monitors lots of information for achievements, it should be simple to make a script to check out AH transactions and report cases that could be gold sellers.
In the end this wouldn’t remove bot problem, but it would be easy way to make transactions harder, as it was mentioned in the original post. After reading 300+ posts about this, you are either gold seller or troll if you keep continually obstructing this idea.
gold mailing is most likely not the issue as this is also being easily tracked and monitored.
I would suspect that goldsellers these days just tell you to list Item X on the Marketplace for price Y. Or ask you to list several of item X for price Y and then someone on the other end will buy them for you and complete the transaction.
The less direct they can be the harder it is to detect right? Like if I put some item the marketplace and list it for 25k and someone buys it, its not my problem right? Something like that. Slippery slope.
FF14 also has a bot problem and it can’t be fixed. That’s because there are no stupid pixel bots, the world is bigger than in LA and you can even visit other servers. A good bot is almost indistinguishable from a real player as they can even respond to messages, take random routes and not get stuck in their actions. Welcome to the 21st century.
Speaking of the 21st century: Even personal transactions from player to player can be programmed. Completely automated, from order entry to delivery, no human interaction required. If there’s enough money to be made, RMT companies will develop it.
And what does Amazon want to do? Should they include in their TOS:
§13.3.7: You should not troll RMT by posting a cheap item at the same starting price x and selling price y… also please do not post items for unrealistic prices. This is a violation of our terms of service and may result in your account being permanently closed."
It’s ridiculous enough that you’re not supposed to accept gold from strangers via mail.
The game is several years old and unless Smilegate is completely stupid, they won’t adapt the version for the west because otherwise the code would differ so much that the development effort for any future updates for mail, AH and basic transactions would be far too great.
Someday you won’t recognize the bots anymore because the programs will evolve. If everything else fails, there are enough legitimate players sitting on millions of gold who would like to earn a little extra on the side. There are enough RMT companies that are happy to help.
Just because you don’t see something anymore, doesn’t mean the problem is solved
only real fix would be to allow royal crystals to be turned into gold directly without a middle man (ie player buying blue crystals). This allows them to set the price to whatever they want and keep changing it until the botters cannot make any real life money. huge inflation is worth this as more money is being generated. right now we have false inflation as all the money is in the hands of the botters and not being circulated much at all in the economy.
Banning gold mailing is not a catch all, but it will help. What it needs to go alongside it is hard caps on T1 and T2 accessory prices on the ah (no one believes you your blue t1 earring is worth 100k gold) and most importantly account closure and steam vac bans on rmt buyers.
With my deep respect, but…did you smoke something?
Outside rmt, we’re playing together and many times happen I send gold to my friends and family member to help them on their progression.
I have another option. Just shut down the servers…so? Maybe? What do you think? This also prevents bots.
Be careful what you suggest on the forum. Amazon could be an …sorry …cooperative to listen to you and they make it happen.
Putting that item at 1 gold for 3 days instead of 1 day (like 80% of those items) will result of you selling your items.
But well I agree, letting a friend or guildie pay for t1 mats, as long as it’s not just a random is a bad thing. I even already moved to t1 zones asking ppl with low roster lvl if they stuck on materials, spending them something for their progress
@Roxx Hello, maybe you guys can do something similar what what Escape from Tarkov has done to their auction house. Where people are penalized for pricing items above the average price of other people say an Item is worth 1000 gold and an RMT person decides to list it for 100,000k well they would be heavily, Heavily taxed they did this to combat RMT
It’s kinda difficult to determine this in a market. What if the goods are actually worth that. I guess maybe sometimes they aren’t. And I know this is the way people transfer goods cross server without having a 2nd account or to someone bussing.
You could argue that no gold transfer it legitimate, but it hurts some parts of the game that legitimate people have.
Well, since Gold is Roaster wide, in fact i dont see a reason why you should be able to send gold.
Just do 1:1 trades , if u sell something or whatever.
Perhaps there is a reason i dont see?
But the question is, if it really help against bots, or they just stick to the Market like they do already.
The solution wouldn’t be to hurt market/auction house trading. The solution removes the streamlined process of sending gold out to buyers.
This way players can still trade gold to each other and transfer gold to each other. The system can much easily confirm RMT in auction house trades because BOTH parties have to participate in the process. You cannot get bagged and then use an excuse like “I just accepted mailed gold, I didn’t know it was a gold seller”. Instead they can see that you intentionally listed a gem for 120491863 gold and it instantly sold to a guy named jdljfsdkfjs.
The same way they do in WoW. Crowd him and spam 1:1 trades
the only way to solve this problem is for the game itself to generate more gold for players with everything so hard to make gold, that is why RMT in place, if there people can get gold on their own, you think people will buy any of them?
I feel like I needed to quote the thing you didn’t read just now.
Nah. When that happens, it just means more gold gets traded for less. So now your crystals also start costing 2-3k gold like KR (and KR makes WAAAAAAAY more raw gold with their current content).
