Who told you bot farm gold from t1 t2 chaos dungeon?
Have you ever heard about Masterpiece and Una Task?
Is it just me or is the last Chaos mat “fix” starting to look more and more of a move to force legit players to use in-game purchases. The “fix” did nothing to reduced bots. In fact, the “fix” INCREASED botting, because now the botters needed to use even more bots to compensate for their losses from the Chaos mat “fix”. This explains the recent skyrocketing on server queues.
When you removed infinite chaos dungeon from legit players, no matter how small. Those players have to find another sources to earn gold. In this case, it will just make them realize that “why do I grind when I can just buy the gold?”
This is, my guess, is what is happening now. There are more demands for gold and you will have a portion of players choosing to swipe to make up that gold they lost whereas others turned to RMT. This is why measures to affect players in a fight against bots will never work. You will end up with either the players leaving the game altogether out of frustration or they turn to bot gold.
A lot of people who pro-claimed they understand how infinite chaos or how bots are making their gold actually have no idea about what the bots are doing. And when AGS listening to this kind of suggestion, you will have this phenomenon occurring.
Gold is the only reason bots are here, and players need gold to progress. If there was enough gold for players to self sustain themselves, they will not need RMT gold.
One of the reason it is so bad in the West is because players from the West are not used to the idea of grinding multiple alts. They just aren’t interested in doing so and they simply do not have time. And when that coupled with the limited entries per day, players will turn to RMT
I personally still think that if a player worked their ass to get to a certain point in the game - for example to participate in Argos and other legion raids, you should reward them more.
If you are not comfortable with increasing the rewards, the other method is to let them pay 50% of their current raid earning for another raid entries. Guardians can also utilize the same method. This helps a lot actually because you will have people joining different raid groups, and each time they re-do it, they are earning gold and rewards for their own progression. Since raid still requiring 8 players, it doesn’t take away anything. So it’s essentially also a reward for your time that I think both casuals and hardcore can enjoy.
What this also will do is isolating them from turning to bot gold because they can just farm to obtain those gold.
If Inflation is a concern. You can always increasing the gold cost of honing or upgrading relic gear quality. There are multiple methods to add in the game to have gold sink, we can worry about this problem at a later day.
Then next problem is you need a new method to prevent bots from gathering materials. One good idea is to randomize the spawn points of those gathering nodes. Again, it will cause inconvenience to the players, but I think it is a minimal damage.
Another idea to adjust the gatherings can also be to set a lower limit to all gather items in the market. For example: AH lowest limit for a fish is 10g/1. Players who directly trade with each other can go lower than this price point. This method effectively can isolate the flow of gold out of the bot hand and I would think it will be easier for AGS to track down who is owning 300,000 fishes.
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I mean most bots wern’t using the infinite chaos dungeon thing anyway as there isn’t “THAT” many bots at T3 as there are at T1. Most of the T3 ones were players using it to bot thru the infinite chaos dungeon during their Off time on their main.
It doesn’t really matter whether it’s the best money-making tool for them or not, as it was never going to reduce the number of bots. The point of measures like this is to lower their impact, not to try to cull them.
Think about it from the perspective of someone actually running a bot farm. You’ve got many ways to make money in the game. Let’s say for the sake of argument that infinite chaos is far and away the best, and it’s removed as a revenue stream. Are you really going to pack up your bags and leave?
Of course not, you’re just going move to other money-making strategies and take the profit hit. And you’ll continue to do so until it’s no longer profitable to bot the game versus moving to another game.
I am a pvper and I don’t see bots much at all. Other than an eye soar and congesting the network how do bots affect players?
By trashing the market? Do you think it’s a coincidence that endgame accessories and ability stones (i.e. the only things bots can’t farm) are the only things worth any money now?
They are PAID to get back this fast.
This is their livelihoods. How they put food on the table. They are of course going to find a way.
Whereas AGS or whoever dont give a shit.
what’s funny is the whole reason there are so many bots in lost ark is because every way of earning gold is timegated.
so they have to make more bots to reach the gold qouta to start selling it.
simple math…
less gold per bot = more bots to keep up gold/hour
That sounds like anti-AGS revenue. If they gave you gold then you wouldn’t buy it / crystals from their shop.
Watch this video. Furor explains that we get 50% fewer mats and gold than Korean and Ru players. Ru players also get 3pheaon/day just because they log in, this news goes around the internet for a few days now.
you may notice that bots are still running chaos dungeons even after patch but you don’t understand why because it makes no sense why they are running chaos dungeon and not generating gold. there’s a thing: THEY ARE GENERATING GOLD!
while every material from chaos dungeon vendor became untradeable, there is a thing: you can generate silver through Chaos dungeon, and you can trade silver for Awakening chaos shards, and sell chaos shards for gold on market. so that makes sense now why they are still running chaos dungeons, and why the price of the Awakening chaos shards has been increased in some servers.
an early T3 character with 1302 gs can generate at least 2500 silver per chaos dungeon run, which is guaranteed 2 gold per run (you can buy 10 chaos shards with 2500 silver, and each pack is sold for 2 gold in my server). so do the calculations for how many runs each bot can do per day 
Who is buying chaos shards for gold, though? 
I bought 2000 chaos shards for 200 gold 2 months ago, still 700 of them are remaining. so some people may prefer to buy them with gold since it’s so affordable
As I mentioned in my other replies, bots does not rely on chaos dungeon alone to generate gold.
People only focuses on chaos dungeon bots because in reality they don’t care about the economy. They have red eyes from seeing people higher item level than them.
Bots does gathering to farm gold as well, why are there nobody calling for the removal of gathering nodes? Simple, because you can’t use fish to upgrade your gears directly.
End of the day, all people care about are item levels. Even those who pretends to care about the economy.
Since that is what the developers wanted, to monetize it.
Just too bad that the Bot Army chimed in so effectivly.
thats not enough needs to be 1 week, 1 month, 3 month , 6 month bans
RMT companies are serious business, they are efficient and try to have the less downtime possible.
Today was the first time a bot directly whispered me in punika and i didnt even write anything in global beforehand. Things are only getting worse.