Kicking & warn system in matchmaking abused by premades

So today i got kicked in random kunga guardian raid matchmaking, by 3 premades. Fair kicking and warning system?

So what happened?
Normal kunga, i was p1. Random Repear became frozen by standing to close to me, the player starts spamming ping warnings so i decided to warn because of spam.
Afterwards 3 instant warn + kick , i mean what the hell :b

Toxic system, we already know that, CM confirmed too that you can freely abuse the kick and warn system. You can freely warn and kick anyone you want because none cares about it. You use BI or not use BI doesn’t matter after all. If you have 2 more friends you can freely abuse any system because they can do it because it’s democracy and you have more “voters”.
Worst system ever created. The game should work like Warframe matchmaking if you don’t like the party you can leave your squad and create a different instance with current health bars in solo. But kicking players in a mid-fight is the most disgusting system ever created. It’s totally not similar to kicking someone in open world.

They recently added options when reporting players - to choose “exploiting system” or something like this. All you can do is report all 3, and hope that AGS will finally take any measures against toxic players.

Coz atm all CM’s are like: “we are totally against TOXIC behavior and Bla Bla BLa”, but in reality no measures have yet been taken against any toxicity in the game.

Go with your friends and kick other people left and right.
Let the kick fiesta go out of control so it makes AGS think about improving the faulty system we have nowadays.

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protip, ags cant improve the system, smilegate has to do it, ags can only mention it but given how its still the same now after years of release, i doubt anything will be done about it tbh

they just need to ban 2-3 toxic kids, and they will cry in the forum and the toxicity in the game will fall by 80% by itself

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well instead of banning the ppl that turned toxic why not just not give them the tools to be toxic? you know if the game was made in a way that if you enter a raid/guardian whatever, and you would get a set ammount of consumables each run
this wouldnt be an issue,since even ppl who dont care would have the option to just use it, sooner or later they would just do it cause its free anyway

I think you dont see the real problem here. The problem is that the players are toxic, not the tools they use to be toxic.
If they were not kicking for BI for example - they would kick for engravings/Ilvl. Or find any other thing.
The problem are the people.

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imo the ammount of ppl that are toxic be nature are very little, its mostly ingame systems that turn them toxic for various reasons,toxicity nowadays ingame is like 2nd nature cause developers promote toxicity with so many ingame systems too :man_shrugging: , they not gonna admit it tho

For example in league of legends? Developers promote toxicity by making it competitive game?
what about here then? Someone wipes at a mech which makes other players toxic toward him?
I mean you can be toxic in any multiplayer game, no matter what it is. And the only thing that stops you from being toxic - is you yourself

in league its just marketing, so the addicts gonna make a new account and spend their cash again, i met so many ppl that had like multiple accounts banned with thousands spent on it, and they do it again, and again

in la there are different systems and the game is built differently
simply put ppl just dont wanna waste their time

ff14 has less toxicity right? well its also heavily censored in that regard :smiley:

riot recently went ham on toxicity and now nobody talks anymore
it took them a good 11 year but hey, its not like the community told them since season 2, good marketing startegy

Both of you is right in some POV. There are players who are toxic by nature, doesn’t matter’s what system has the game. On the other hand there are players who become toxic because of the toxic community and/or toxic system. For league of legends example it’s toxic because the game is worldwide popular and toxic players “creates/converts” new players to being toxic. But a much less popular game has very low toxicity. What i said earlier Warframe is a good example, i have 2k hours in it and in like 3-4 years and i can’t remember that i encountered with any toxic player. It’s because that community is less toxic and has a proper game system. You can swap any time even mid-game to solo if you don’t like your party, or you can abort missions anytime without consequences in terms of banning(of course you won’t get the reward from the current mission if you do that). You can do that because the enemies and missions are scaled by number of players. Just like guardian raids, SG should implement a leave system and the toxicity would drastically drop.

They didn’t add DPS meter because it would create toxicity, yet, now ppl are measuring each other by BI usage. However, I rather would go with 4x 1500+ players with 0 BI usage than 4 or 3x1460 with full BI contribution. In this case, the 1500+ players will have a 3-4 minute raid unlike the other group with full contribution gonna have a 6-8 min raid.

This is why we need to have a leave raid option with scaling. Legion raids are a bit more complicated but to be honest in legion raids you don’t have any problem like that, only gatekeeping.

Do you mean he was spamming danger pings on his location? How much did he spam? It’s pretty common to do a short ping spam for important or dangerous mechanics, and that one can cause a chain reaction if you get close. They might have assumed you warned him for getting hit by a mechanic and kicked you because they thought you were being toxic.

He spammed danger pings 5+ times :wink:
Also we all know alot of chain freezing sometimes happends on Kunga. But that’s not the point of this debate, more the fact that premades just can kick solo player wasting his or her time.

Kids these days… what can i say. U abused “Warn” system first, they abused it as counter-attack. Who is at fault? You who made “hehehehhe, it was a joke warn”, or they who actually didnt want to play with guy who is warning people around with no reason. Understandable reaction.
Accept consequences.

P.s. Im not saying people dont abuse this system, cuz they really do, but in your specific case, u deserved it.

tbf i can understand them kicking you even without you warning any of them if you have the freeze on you and are sticking to back attack if theres other back attack classes with you, single handedly the most annoying thing anyone can do in kungelanium and its literally intentional griefing

My kunge never reach 7 min with x3 1460
Its usually 5 min max. If you have el cheapo 3x3 alt 1500 combat stat you will do 7min+ kunge