Lack of supports In t3 content is right now rly bad

That might help valtan normal and very little. It doesn’t resolve the issue that support main=/= support alt.

Very few people will have a 1445 support even with the honing change, and those won’t be relevant for vykas hard either. You don’t resolve the support issue by spamming alts as bard, you need people to swap mains.

Global has had a crap mentality regarding support because doing so in other MMO like wow and FFXIV means you’ll be taking the majority of the blame when people die to stupid things. Luckily lost ark if you die to mechs it’s often blamed on you and not the support atm.

I have seen mentality like “only gamer girls play bard”, why play support when you can have big dps/sword etc.

Also DPS paladins. Oh boy…

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Mmh i see what you mean but somehow when i see around me 1445+ players i see a fair amount of supports compared to the 1415 population.

Imo people who are 1445 ready are more organised with set ups guilds and decent amount of supports main since day 1.

A good solution would be that the Hyper Express event that should come somewhere with summer is part of artist release. As hyper express has the reputation to give you an extra main char ez, lot of people will certainly use it mindlessly and you will have ton of more “2nd main” supps

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I sincerely hope that hyper express will come at the same time as like 2 simultaneous classes release.
Its an event once in a year, probably the most important one and it should come with a support class.

I will make a second paladin. It’s fun to play :slight_smile:

Once again you might be seeing guilds that took all the supports. Just watch looking for parties on valtan day one and you’ll know very quickly how bad the issue is.

Statistically 10% supports means 40% of the playerbase can do the content with supports. Most of the higher ilvl supports are likely in guilds/friend groups.
Supports on average do not whale like DPS.
All of those will be rough on looking for party/matchmaking groups.

Hope so😊Ty for your time and reply😊Seems like you have good guild😊Wish you luck on Valtan

You should have try it with bards i got an irl friend who has 6 bards.

He intends to play 1 full dps and an other one with a very weird hybridish style

Like 2 pieces of the awakening set, 4 pieces of support one, awakening 3, courage 3, salvation 3, adrenaline 3, grudge 3, armor 1.

Cant wait to test out this dps/support that can pump 8 ult / fight

This combined with judgement is insane build tbh

lmao the necklace alone on my bard (desperate salvation+awakening) was 20K gold. Earrings/rings 6-8k each. Each stone 2k each and had to go through many to get a 6/6. It will be so much worse with relic accessories.

I do not recommend support for anyone unless you love paying 5-10 times more than everyone else for your stuff.

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I know only one whale in my guild and he putted 7k € in his bard, now he is somekind of flexxing super important cornerstone on a pedestal, and i think whales should play supports they will defo receive a lot of love they are paying for with RCs… :smirk:

Honestly our first argos 3 he was 1430 already and we had this invincible 4x3 bard with Heavy armor and we got “carried” hard this was back in the days. I never felt more carried by a whale supp than when i took a 1460 applicant zerk once.

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Yeah, I said 333 setup, not 4x3.

With 6+4 stone you need just one accessory with 2+3, other 4 can be just +3 class engraving. Paladin doesn’t need heavy armor. Just awakening and expert.

So all the people that are acknowledging a lack of supports should start pushing support alts…?
Everyone is saying there is a " problem " but no one has started pushing their own support alt. Adding artist won’t change the situation, it will just be another support option that no one plays.

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Honnestly as supp if you can put it this way :

  • expert 3
  • awakening 3
  • class engraving 3
  • heavy armor 1
  • MP efficiency 1

You are ready to face any content valtan hard included.

And take in account endurence pieces they build up more shields and heals and endurance gives also magic res and armor. Its a REAL good stat on support like having a necklace spec - endu or swift - endu and a BiS endu ring will bring you to like 400-500 endurance which will give you 30-40% more defences and 20-30% bigger shields and heals. And WAY cheaper.

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Never played bard, but paladin doesn’t need anything other than blessed, expert and awakening.
Heavy armor if you get hit a lot, but you don’t want to get hit during Valtan, anyway. Everything else is luxury and not needed.

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There is even top KR builds for supports who have 1000 endurence they dont go above this score but it s a real thing.

But 1000 endu is at like 1600 i lvl they have line 850 swiftness or something alongside it so dont go 1000 endu at argos.

But defo 400 endu as supp is effective no joke and cheaper.

Vital hit point is what i will work towards as my 4th engraving on my paladin. It would be more helpful for stagger checks, and paladin doesn’t really need heavy armor imo.

If you have more than 800 swiftness mana can become an issue except on a judgement rune build and mp efficiency 1 can smoothen things up

If you have Judgement instead of Blessed Aura you’re automatically considered DPS Pala and they won’t take you into party, tho

Thats why i wrote “judgment rune” for conviction/judgement runes combo that also givrs back mana alongside the cdr etc.

To avoid confusion with dps paladin.

One big problem with supports is their DPS in solo/world content. Try the tower with bard and you’ll see. Bards get +30% dmg on some skills to try and help but it doesn’t. World content takes forever to kill unless you’re over-geared for the area. PvP is also difficult for most support players. It’s just not fun. Put the cost of accessories on top of that and I don’t blame anyone for not playing support.

ah, right! My apologies, reading forums while doing daily chaos chore isn’t very good idea after all…

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