you know what else can fix it? Improved gamedesign! I personally find it strange to see that many people not even getting the point. even if you play 1 char its 20 min of boring bs.
The game design encourages you to STOP at 6 characters actually. You don’t even have to do all 6 and the only thing making anyone do even 6 is themselves.
You’re not supposed to be enhancing every single day. You have delayed gratification issues and think if you have to wait to do something it’s a bad thing when it isn’t.
Gatekeeping is a nonsense argument. This is an MMO, go make friends, join a guild, and form statics if you’re worried about randoms not wanting to accept you into their PRIVATE parties. Nobody has a right to demand entry into a private space.
This is an MMO, daily quests are almost guaranteed to exist.
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Da heck are you talking about? my alts are at 1472.5 and i always find a party to do all my weekly raids lmao
that was not the case at realease you could have as much goldearners as you liked
well if I dont progress why bother playing ?
Gatekeeping is a very real argument and I simply cant run every raid with a guildgrp.
I know what a MMO is lil bro i played a lot of em and you didnt read my first post properly i want it to improve for everybody even if you play only 1 char it should not be a boring mindnumbing activity 
I just wanna know why would the game should be tailored for people like you (people who have the time to play 10+ hours a day) which are not even 1% of the players?
Isn’t it better to cater to the majority of the players? (players who play 3 to 6 characters)
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I want 2 aspects of the game to Improve for everybody(chaos and guardians) not just for hc players for everybody cause it is not fun to do even if you do a friction of how much I do them.
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1% of players play over 12 chars? sry more like 30% play 12 chars +
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Even if you only play 3-6 chars it still takes 1-2 hours a day. Where you could play something that is fun instead or do something useful.
so lets say they reduce it to once per day instead. what you going to do with all that time you got freed up now? double up your roaster to 24 characters?
in your case its not an issue with gamedesign but personally issues since you choose to play with 12 characters.
you are choosing to do 12 characters and then bitch about it being to much for you 
its an mmorpg having 20min of dailies isnt weird and you dont even have to do it daily since you can do it with rested, so its 20min every 3 days.
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What? NA/EU always had 6 gold earner limit.
Wdym if you don’t progress? Do you think everyone else who isn’t running 12 characters isn’t progressing? Also, progressing is the only fun you have in this game? Believe it or not many of us actually enjoy the content of this game not just seeing some arbitrary ilvl increase mostly from armor upgrades.
You most definitely can run every single raid with a guild/static group if you put in the effort.
I did read your entire post “lil bro” but most of it was complaining about your decision to play 12 chars. The only decent suggestions I felt you had were #2 and #3. The rest are big nothing burgers that don’t really make any significant difference.
This is massive cope. I would go as far as to say there are UNDER 1% of players running 12+ chars.
If you’re not having fun in those 1-2 hours then quit wtf???
Its not an improve for me, a person who is looking for more time inside guardians cuz i love them, most of my low ilvl friends wants to do extra guardians and chaos but it is not worth anymore after the second time cuz it doesn’t give mats anymore.
You are just being selfish and you are not thinking outside the box.
If you really think 30% of the players play 12+ characters you must be high.
Most people do 3 to 6, there is no way in hell 30 % of the players do 12+ characters LOL
You are in your own imaginary world and you keep demonstrating it.
Most players do 6 cuz thats the gold earning limit.
How about the people who find fun in guardian and chaos and people who don’t like to do raids?
also how the heck are 2x chaos/guardians on 3 characters 2 hours? are you crazy? thats like 1 hour.
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I understand you. But you really pushed yourself with 12 chars. I think that 1chaos /1 guardian per char and actually having 4 chars that can earn gold as limit in this game would be better.
Cubes are utter trash. More mats should be possible to get via side content and not mindless grind.
It really depends on your character. On my better chars it will take 1h on worse 1.5h.
This is the only thing that i agree on, give us more options, like the battle royal island on KR it gives mats
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This Kid is has caught a severe FOMO… you cant save him.
But man its funny to see them panic, thinking they cant keep up if they miss 1 day of farming.
Why dont we all have some fun, and keep telling them that they CANT SURVIVE unless they farm 24/7-365
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I wonder if he is one of those that say “i won’t be able to catch up to Brel HM its impossible without swiping” and then you see his characters and all of them are at 1550 but he is sad cuz he can’t get all of them to g6 lol
The biggest problem here is doing everything unrested on 12 characters, so of course that’s gonna add up timewise
Rest bonus is 66% of the rewards for 33% of the work which is a damn good deal if you ask me, especially to save time which seems to be a big problem
Also too I myself have cut my roster to 4 characters, with possibly 5 pending Aeromancer release (she may just replace Sorc entirely, not 100% sure)
I have my main at 1550 while working on slowly getting weapon to 19
Sorc is 1521~ and a Paladin one Brel weapon conversion away from 1520
And my neweat recruit, GT Bonker, at 1477.5, 5 hones away from Brel
And 3 alts 1450-1460 for Lopangs
And everything I do is on rested, and hell, I’ve even been skipping doing every available Legion/Guardian raid I can some weeks along with, oh god, not logging on at all some days
The sheer horror
I’ve spent money on the game (because remember you pay with your time or money folks), mostly for pheons, but now I’m in a spot where I can take a break and do something else, which I have been
You’re wanting stuff to change but not realizing the core of the problem, which is you’re getting burnt out doing this stuff every day for hours at a time
Cut down some characters (make them just lopang slaves), take advantage of the rest bonus system and take a break before you come back here giving another long post about how you’re being forced to quit the game from something entirely of your own doing
I also recommend Valheim to play, 10/10 would get ambushed by trolls and wolves again
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my personal roster is bad but i made a mistake of utilizing stronghold farm to get orehas + having bad honing luck.
as pure f2p I’m limited to 6 chars, I do chaos/guardian rested on them & it’s fine. 2 to 3 times per week only. Also all different classes to not get bored quickly.
Yeah Stronghold Farm always seemed like a bad go to me, especially hearing about the bottlenecks
And I’ve had my fair share of bad honing luck too (Paladin seems to be my problem child), yet my main was surprisingly smooth to get to 1550, so small victory there
People really need to start realizing that SG wants you to log in and stay logged in for as long as possible to get you to spend money
However most Global players tend to pick up on something like this quick and go “yeah no not happening”
Combine this with the fact that this game is not a “looter” at all and abysmal honing rates to get ready for Akkan
And those dopamine hits with all those feel good chemicals that possibly make you wanna spend money go away real quick
They gotta do something to keep that dopamine rush going, and it has to be different than “spend in the store to rage hone or buy a skin”
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Are you seriouslly arguing that it is his fault? It is a fact that there is too much homework?
Even if you run just 6 characters and do them 2 by 2 each day for full rested.
When you add 6 Brel runs 1-6, clowns and 1 other + chaos dungeons, + cubes and boss rushes + islands + boss/chaos gate everyday.
Make the calculation yourselves and tell me how much hours do you spend in the game per week and per day to finish all this. I Highly doubt you do less then 3 hours per character per week. When you add the lobby waiting, loading screens and occasional hic ups… and just plain waiting for “events” and stuff to start.
factor in doing card runs, pvp, GvG, GvE
Add in a loipang alt or 3… and see how much those add up.
Almost everything in the game besides the raid you do becayse you have to, not because you want to.
And sure you can not do them…but they you could also not play the game.
I still need an explanations how doing 2 of the same things per day per characters improves the game experience.
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I agree with everything you said and i understand why you made so many chars. Ignore the bad comments above saying that it s your fault. It s coming from people that still don t have LWC 18 and not even full gems lvl 7. Many of my friends left the game cause of burnout and people that still defend 2x chaos 2x raid daily are the first ones that will leave when the ship, or should i said the ark, will sink. The playerbase is dropping like crazy and if they don t do something the game will surely die when d4, blue protocol and TNL will come out. Have a nice day !
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