Dude what… I learned lost ark pvp mechanics in less than a week…I was 1v3ing at lvl 26… Yeah I play blade but I put all my hours learning it. I mained sub rogue in WoW and I can tell you the learning curve there is way way higher. You need comms and way more awareness to climb, and need to know waaay more. It also has way more cc lmao try being feared for 12 straight seconds into a 6 second stun then rooted for 8 seconds. = WoW cc
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Yeah bards are actual aids to play against
Honestly Lost Ark arena is nothing/so easy compared to Wow. I think that’s why I like it so much… it’s just chill and I can put on some headphones and queue up.
Exactly…i just pve and when I get bored I queue up and enjoy it even if I get rekt. It’s just fun. In WoW you’re either sweating every single game or losing 24/7. I don’t play it anymore though tbh game sucks lul. Plus all the addons and op comps suck ass. Wow’s World pvp is really good though only reason I played it
Okay, since you decided to focus only on that one sentence out of my whole post, let me reply to that.
It’s not that hard to learn the mechanics, but it is hard to use them properly and to be great at PvP. It should be like that. It doesn’t need to be too hard though, as it is a MMORPG, where you have other stuff to do, like PvE and daily quests. PvP should be accessible to anyone, but they shouldn’t expect to just be good instantly. But it also shouldn’t drive that many players away.
I’ll say it again, LoL is easier and less frustrating to play than than LA. Now, imagine if every champion in LoL had access to several knockup and stagger skills.
Besides, MOBA games have pretty clear skill indicators, you usually know what skill is hitting you. You need champion/hero knowledge but with them having 4 skills each, and having much clearer skill indicators, it’s pretty easy to learn them. LA requires you to pretty much know every classes abilities, how they look, their animations, whether they have cc/cc immunity, etc. in order to play against them successfully.
Well that’s not what I said, is it? I’m not talking about people who enjoy this sort of PvP, they will obviously continue playing.
However, this point doesn’t matter that much and it’s not my main argument.
I can’t comment about WoW cc, as I haven’t played the game. I’ve played a similar type of game to it, and I remember only a couple of classes having that sort of cc, and whenever you damage someone while they were in that sort of long cc, the cc would end. I also feel like those types of cc weren’t that easy to land. Some classes also had more cc and some less.
To touch on the Rogue in WoW, it’s also probably hard to play and hard to pull off that cc combo? Also, can every class in WoW do the same thing? Just because wow has a frustrating class that cc locks you for that long, doesn’t mean anything.
Every game has CC, I’ve dealt with it, but in Lost Ark it just feels way more annoying and frustrating. Every class has access to a large amount of CC. I don’t know if it’s due to stagger or what. Like a lot of players mention, PvP is mainly knockups and cc, everything revolves around that. You either use dodge/immunity skills to avoid the cc, or run away from the fight. Then you go back in and try to land your own ccs so you can get an opportunity to kill someone. Dealing damage is an afterthought that you either do to CC someone or to kill the CCed target.
Fun is subjective, but saying it’s chill, you are probably in a large minority. The nature of Lost Ark makes it sweaty, all that dodging, landing abilities, timing cc, cc immunity, etc. - you constantly need to be aware and focused, you constantly need to aim your skills, it most definitely is sweaty. That’s the nature of PvP games, some can be less and some more sweaty - I don’t have an issue with that.
Imma be honest, i think people at least in my opinion overreact about deathblades super armor.
Tier 2 super armor on “Turning Slash” this
(Tier 2 tripod)
Tier 2 super armor on “Rising Tornado”
(Tier 3 tripod Upgrade)
Tier 2 super armor on “Dark Axel” this is the engage ability for those of you who don’t know, but in my opinion this ability is the least of your worries honestly.
(Tier 2 tripod Upgrade)
Tier 2 super armor on “Polestar” i think this ability is absolute trash lol
(Tier 2 tripod)
i think gunslinger is 30x worse it can go into a team of 3 with no worries cause it shoots in an aoe circle with tier 2 super armor i honestly think it’s ridiculous
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If any of this people hard cc it’s gg tho
Well I wouldn’t be against all classes being limited with 2 push immunities, and 4-6 para immunities. The bloat of push immunity as you said for some classes makes them a direct counter to others. That’s not to say that the other classes can’t be outsmarted, but when you have two players of equal skill the one with more push immunities should win. It’s especially annoying as striker when these classes will save their push immunity for all my engages, yes like people say I can “bait them” but if I waste more than two skills as striker that’s actually most of my damage. I need to get a clean juggle off at least twice or 1 juggle and an awakening skill to get a decent lead in HP. So what happens if I can’t bait them or even if I do, I am still left with less damage skills to use and some classes like blade will have upperslash off cooldown already so now I’m back to square 1. It’s also good to talk about the fact that the game play is still really entertaining and if they gut some classes completely and make them all the same, I think the game could be become boring. Then it would really be a race to just get someone’s dash/stand up and one shot them. I mean on paper it sounds great giving everybody equal footing but if they did it in game who knows how It would turn out. I think what’s keeping this game balanced is the 3v3 solo queue. Not allowing pre mades I think is keeping everything in check. Also some classes can counter to other classes naturally so being able to get a character to level 26 and start pvping is something the game has done a great job and I’m honestly thankful for. If you play a lot of mmorpgs you know there really isn’t any so called balance, there is always classes at the top and some mid/at the bottom. So having that easy access to any pvp you want on any character is really the best thing ever.
Yaegar beat the top gunslinger bard and deathblade
(Arguably best gunslinger in the world)
As a striker
You should search for his gameplay
Might help
just wait for ranked pvp.
and nerfs the top pvp characters, which spamming push immunity to win games
Nobody in high ranks is spamming anything
They wont be in high rank lol… The game is fairly well balanced in 3v3. No button spamming players will be getting far in rank.
I second this. All classes should have a similar amount of Push Immunity.
I Know in KR for example Wardancer is highly ranked, ihave yet to see myself how, since the class has ZEEEROOOO push immunity.
I find it absurd they didn’t even give her the option for some Push Immu with tripods like most Blade skills.
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they aren’t gonna do that, the foundation of the game shouldn’t be tampered with to that extent they need to be very careful with what they touch
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I would rather face a good gunslinger than a good deathblade I’ll give you that lol. I actually beat way more gunslingers than deathblades. Doesn’t mean it’s still not a tough match up with the mobility and push immunity the class has
Wardancer/striker can juggle multiple people at once in 3v3 that’s probably why. It’s not easy to do but with good timing you can get a double/triple. Been doing it a lot lol
that means you just haven’t really faced a good gunslinger, that class is really really good, a good gunslinger does not leave anything to chance, they have top mobility a ton of super armor and a ton of damage.
this post is just crap tho, the guy that posted the first comment did not even understand how CC works in this game wich makes all this kinda useless, in the end some classes are just easier to play wich is not the same as them being op (deathblade is just extremely easy to use, you could bash your keyboard and you will kill ppl with it) gunslinger is a bit harder (and you will see bad gs’s) but once you see ppl that are good with GS you will rather have 100 deathblades than 1 gs haha
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I’ve done it quite a couple of times;, but it just requires too much patience. It’s basically a “wait for your mates to get caught” so you can go at it…
Your point?