List for DPS classes

Let me burst your bubble here. Supports do not even 2-3% of the total damage for the raid. The difference between you guys fully damaging the boss and afking is practically nothing.

Secondly: support is not hard. I’m thinking about deleting my paladin because it’s just so fucking boring to play.

You think dps has only 1 real job and then you think they must be easy. No. This is true for almost every mmo out there, dps is generally the hardest role to play because the skill ceiling is close to infinite. The ceiling for support is much lower. It doesn’t matter if you have 5 more things to do… all those extra things are so much easier.

ironic seeing how you made this thread riding the support high horse but fine l’ll be explicit for you

l don’t want dps players that don’t know their limits and eat shit early on into the fight
l don’t want supports that have shit tier buff/debuff uptimes

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rasulienko see? This is why you created this topic. Because you cant read or just ignoring part of the comments.
In this case you spoke about only the supports and I answered it that why should I keep a bad support.

In my previous comments I said, that there are bad supports but also there are really bad dps too.
You are creating a problem for yourself that doesnt exist.

I will kick EVERY bad player. I dont care if its support or dps. Bad player is bad player and he is trying to jail us and I wont let it happen.
And I also kick hysterical players too.

one thing we both have same, yesterday i am deleting my pala too and keeping my bard coz is much more fun for me and give /in my opinion/ more usfull staff than pala but second side, when i relog to my favorite DPS class, i feel more chill coz have more time escape from all mechs and doing DPS because all survive things doing supp and i can enjoy more yellow numbers so in y opinion, if you play supp, you need focus for more things than DPS, its again my opinion and i respect different thinking

real is that i am defending supports because i hear negative comments only about supports and nobody talk about bad DPS, this is 50/50, one topic is how bad some supps are, i created topic how bad are some DPS, and i always play and like with both, and i always say depends if those people know mechs or no, aaaaand i always say i am never kicking people like you, its a agressive gesto, i just asking for leave and find learning group, if they ignore me, i leave and do with another group and that tactic is more un-toxicity and more sucess for my 7 chars

You hear negative comments only about supports? Then you are ignoring everything else.
What do you think, out of 100 player who got gatekept how many are dps. 100. So please stop this nonsense whiteknight thing for supports.

You saw 1(!) comment about BAD supports and you started a crusade here.

And that topic is not about “how supports are bad”, its about bad supports. Support that was bad.
I’m done with you and this nonsense topic, because every time I read your comment I have a headache.

Fixed it

Let me fix it again for you, on a bards perspective

We are the same in essence, a party actually does more DMG with a support and making the group chill since we give dmg prevention tools and heals.

IMO the reason we have a lot of ‘bad’ supports is by necessity, the game is designed with them and we are having a support shortage. Ppl are filling a demand and because they are not being gatekept they don’t care about appearances…

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“List for DPS classes”
where?

sup prevent deaths to normal patterns
thats how u tell a gud vs bad most cases

also if u push mech to mech aka sup buffing at right time
tornadoes shield etc

tbh unless he was much higher ilvl and geared than everyone else, the rest of the DPS were just really bad when you consider how weak a DPS pally is.

That says more about the other players tbh than it does about paly. Took one to brel G1-2 (he had title from brel 6 so i assume he’s a decent player) with my mates (we were curious how good dps paly is) and despite having some of the best gear in the party, he barely did any real damage.

Im sorry, but when i read your post it doesnt make sense. Im sure english is your second language but this is really hard to understand.

He got you guys good ngl xDD

are you sure. fully yellow pally ceiling kinda hard cause the ceiling is to never be hit since u run magick stream spam yellow spam blessed aura!

if dps’s are allowed to be hit to max their uptime then the reverse is that supports shouldn’t be hit to max their buff uptime!

but yea dps ceiling is high on ARPG like games but usually the extra 5-10% doesn’t matter, just like magick stream pally.

The question is whether the classes are more difficult on 80-90%tile not 99-99.5%

Full yellow pally is never the play. Explosive expert is stronger than magic stream.

I agree but you run ee and magick stream.

My ideal pally build is

blessed aura
explosive expert
ether
awakening
magick stream
vph 1 then vph 2 with ancient

As useless as expert is, people are going to question this build.

I also didn’t run expert on my alt but I ended putting it back on after being questioned multiple times.

Yeah both of your comments this says that its not about items. Its about how you play. If you play dps while running around not doing dmg, then ofc ur dmg gonna be low.

Supports are indeed not build for dps but if they play well, they can get close to a dps character’s dps.

Idc myself tho, as a support main I only do supporting.

You got it the other way. If DPS plays badly, they can approach support dps values. No matter how good a support dps player is, he has a ceiling ha cannot pass. Ceiling that is easy to pass on a dps character, therefore a worse player on similarly geared dps character will easily outdps a support dps. Or, alternatively, similarly skilled player will easily outdps a support dps with worse gear. Eot.

This is the problem with lack of dps meter in the game and using 3rd party one being a bannable offense. We can’t even discuss this shit using real data., because people either don’t have the data or won’t admit to having it. All we can go on is “oh, is saw a dps pala get mvp and cruel figter once”. Great. And i saw a dps pala with good gear and skilled player who didn’t even make it to mvp screen (let alone getting actual mvp) in a group of trashy alts. If, hypothetically, there was an in build dps meter in the game i could tell you how pathetic his dps was. And then we could have a real discussion. Without it, it’s pointless.

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