Kao
November 29, 2022, 9:31pm
#1
I know that as CMs @Community-Team u probably cant do anything but I would like you to show this thread to your higher ups at least, to reconsider giving people choice at least.
It would be nice If u gave players option to swap to KR ver. of SH (even If its on client side and on server side we will be black for other ppl) or do it as downloadable DLC
Clearly u have huge amount of feedback to this issue yet u guys just decided to brush it off with one sided statement.
This is most likely not even all the posts, just quick search I have done since the patch hit
edit: added some missing posts
(Threads that have âOops! That page doesnât existâ msg are deleted for some reason, they were active at the time of posting of this thread)
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Why Amazon⌠Why�
This was my most anticipated change⌠I log in, doing Kungelanium, transform and get cucked like this⌠Despair.
Took you one week to come up with âOur version of shadowhunter is different from other regions because reasonsâ, how about no? we dont want this, nobody want this, give the players the choice.
This shit is worse than blizzard âyou think you do but you donâtâ
And why itâs not reverted by now??? @Roxx @Shadow_Fox
Look how many posts/replies we got in less than 1 day lol PLEASE DO SOMETHING. NO ONE WANTS THESE CHANGES. OTHER REGIONS ARE LAUGHTING AT US.
@Community-Team
Itâs been a week since we wanted to be acknowledge by one of you about this issue and all the other threads got your attention except for ours. The only thing weâve got is a statement with no way at all to respond or interact with you what so ever. Multiple threads have come with solution that will make 99% of us happy like using the skin color of the character in human form into demon form, a toggle to the shader or a steam DLC to restore the KR version for those who preffer iâŚ
https://forums.playlostark.com/t/objective-feedback-inquiry-suggestion-on-shadowhunter-demonic-impulse-new-transformation/484495
Letâs come to a compromise regarding this.@Roxx @Shadow_Fox @o-o @Centeotl
I strongly recommend AGS to pursue a compromise whether itâs in the form of toggling options for players to choose from (NA/EU vs Korea ) to creating unique transformation skins specific to the Shadowhunter Demonic Impulse Transformation. Strive for promoting choices and options.
AGS stance is that it provides variety of skin tones available in player characters in NA/EU. So, AGS should do their due diligence in providiâŚ
Thank you AGS for ruining the class for me. It actually looks worse than it was before. Iâm deleting my shadowhunter.
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Please fix this
@Roxx Can you confirm if this is intended or not
Continuing the discussion from Shadowhunter Demon Form Skin Tone :
The primary reason for this post is not to ask for a change but for a better explanation that I can relate to and understand.
I always had a hard time understanding the reasons behind the few localization choices AGS has made since the launch but this Shadowhunter demon form skin tone change is absurd.
I believe most of the community will agree that representing diversity is a significant value we should uphold, however the lacâŚ
@Roxx @Maselbart @Shadow_Fox @Sandovall We expect you to listen to how we all dislike the way it looks and actually do something about it not give this dogshit statement. The other issue which I feel the need to edit in is that it is TOO DARK there are many dark raids in this game and when playing them particularly clown I find it hard to tell where my character is / what they are doing it is bad for visual clarity as well as just looking bad. Try again then come back to us. In the meantime beâŚ
The appearance varies wildly based on the settings you use. If I use max settings (cuz i like the game looking pretty) then the Shadowhunter becomes barely visible underneath all the glowing fog and stuff.
I think the aesthetic of a class being obscured like this if you happen to be in a less than bright area is a very unfun-immersion breaking sight, especially since aesthetics are such a strong appeal of this game.
I personally feel that the appearance of some peoples favorite class being broâŚ
Who asked for this? literally no one asked for this so why are implementing things that no one asked for ?
Also by your logic isnât it racist if the character was white then turns into a demon in black?
Thats not my logic i donât think like a clown but you guys doâŚ
For the love of anything just give us what KR has without adding in âyour magical touchâ that literally not a single soul asked for âŚ
Few cry babies complain about yozâs jar, they remove it
Thousands complain about shadowhunter demon form and its radio silence
Great logic
Your reasoning is the different skin colors we have. But story wise, Armen is also a delain, so you should change his skin color too.
You are defying the lore of the game regarding the delain Race by giving arguments that are simply not true. The only reason you are pushing this is because your real explanation âWe donât want the skin to be white like in EVERY other regionâ would upset people too much. The player TRANSFORMS into a demon, itâs supposed to change everything, including your skin câŚ
Hey guys, i did some investigation and i asked a few KR streamers after Amazons reponse.
They said that the Shadowhunter regardless of their skin will always get the âWhiteâ tranformation model.
This means that if you have a darker tone character, they will transform into a White version of themselves on demonic.
We can clearly see that with this being the case, they would receive backlash regardless.
Either âBlackfacingâ SH or âWhitewashing SHâ. So they potentially just decided to make everâŚ
I rarely post on the forums - I see no need to, usually - but I wanted to talk about Shadowhunterâs new transformation. I donât want to rehash the old arguments, merely to submit a request.
In last weekâs patch we received the updated model for Shadowhunter. Everyone was excited about it, especially given now it was possible to use Interactions and the new selfie mode poses with it in game. That excitement lasted until people launched the game and saw that the shadow effects on the model were sâŚ
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I donât care if people think this is woke or racist, it just looks bad because the skin blends with armor. Either recolor the armor so there is more contrast or give us an option to pick which transform we want - the current one or the one every other version of Lost Ark uses.
https://forums.playlostark.com/t/shadow-hunter-reply-from-news-is-a-lie/487899
I feel like it would be cool if we could get an option to choose how our SH transformations look, even if itâs just for us visually.
A class having their aesthetic and appearance replaced by a singular character model feels out of place in this game full of so much choice.
I feel like having even just a few choices of transformations would be vastly more enjoyable than just being stuck with one choice.
Also, I think the filter on shadowhunter is really disruptive to visuals when combined withâŚ
@Roxx please
There is dozen of posts here/reddit/AGS discord about people including me, hating how our SH form look doesnt match what KR and other regions have. Im sorry but u cant even see your character face when u are pitch black. There were bunch of complains about previous one too that got ignored and I feel like many people hoped this update will finally fix SH form to be exactly like other regions.
Not a single response from CMs in any thread. Can you guys at least say that you will pass the feedbackâŚ
Hi guys first post ever!
I am a shadow hunter main, I picked the class because of the fact that you could transform into a demon, a somewhat cool looking demon, with really awesome looking skills.
I was suuuuper excited about the updated model and animations coming from Korea, every time a patch came out I would scan through the notes to see if it was finally happening⌠but now thatâs itâs happened, all I can say is,
âWhat have they done to my character???â
The texture change YOU guys decideâŚ
Has anyone noticed how low effort the new design is aside from the awful skintone issues? It literally looks like they used the mage border guardian pauldrons on a catsuit. They just made a lot of booba show so we wouldnt notice that they put no effort into the design at all. They can keep the added booba, but they should have kept more of the cooler aspects of the old design like the claws and aspects of the armor design and fixed the posture/model instead. The new one doesnt even look like a dâŚ
I was waiting for the chance so i could make my coackroach a butterfly. I was planning to push her, but as how things are, she is never going to enter vykas hm, just a lopang slave at 1445 that farms relics.
Im now officially a reaper main. My pale skinned white haired assassin that ags cannot take from me.
As for artist, she is not in the same situation, as you choose your skin at character creation, and there is no way sg lets them remodel her. So the only way artist is screwed iff she simplâŚ
We all know there is only one logical solution to the Shadowhunter color issue.
Make them clear. no color no complaints very logic.
We would like a dlc with the original version so that we can have a choice not have this shoved down our throats.
They donât want to say it, but it seems they have an issue with a dark-skin-toned character transforming into a pale-skin-toned demon form.
Why is a pale-skin-toned character transforming into a dark-skin-toned demon form not an issue then?
This was never an issue with any of the other regions KR, JP, RU. Why us?
I genuinely do not understand. I also donât know why they wonât even give us the option to toggle between the original form and AGS version or the technology to keep the characterâs âŚ
Hello,
Please can we get the choice between selecting which transformation form we want? A small minority prefers the shadowy version which is completely fine but to not give what the majority prefers which is the Korean version feels too forced when it comes to preference. AGS by you forcing the shadowy version on us you are essentially telling us how our characters should look so why not give the player the choice? It is a mmo why canât we choose? Some people prefer the old shadowy transformaâŚ
I know AGS has tried to deliver diversification while transferring this game from SG. I understand that, and that is a good effort. I know Roxx has replied that this is for the fact to make SH form clear for PVP reason. But letâs just be honest, no one really believes this reply, and it is OK to honestly say that black SH is one of the trick you have to place to make the game to be ârightâ.
However, the true diversification should give a freedom to choose the characterâs appearance as they likeâŚ
Hi, Iâve been a Demonic Impulse Shadowhunter main since CAT on Western servers. I immediately fell in love with the class and the ability to transform into a demon. I just thought it was the coolest thing ever. I am a Heroic Founder that started the game on Feb 8, 2022. I took a several month break after moving from one state to another, but returned a couple months ago very excited to continue pushing my Shadowhunter further into âend gameâ.
Fast forward to last patch; I know I wasnât the onlyâŚ
@Roxx
can you please tell the higher ups, to revert to the SG original skin and hair colour design and the argument that its âeasier to seeâ is a lame excuse, this isnât game breaking change sure, but its a pointless change that helps absolutely nothing and lets be real the black version of the Shadowhunter is technically harder to see since its all call of duty blacked out.
please stop making pointless changes that does or help nothing.
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Hello and I hope amazon and the other devs would take their time to read this suggestion.
Many ppl are disappointed on what happened to the shadowhunter model that came to the west when balance patch hit when most of the players esp the shadowhunter mains are eagerly waiting for the model thatâs been out in KR months ago. Amazon stated that this change is due to pvp reasons for balancing or some stuff.
If thatâs the case, how about releasing a DLC with the original KR model for demonic form buâŚ
Due to the range of skin tones available for player characters in our version of the game
I dont understand the thought process of how they think this is a good response?
Like: âSince we have more skincolours you are now all locked to black which is definetly better than white or what ever colour you choose when creating your character, have fun!â
or what are we supposed to take away from this post.
Just make it so the transformation model is the same skin colour as your character instead âŚ
AGS is a bunch of lazy people and on top of all that racist. Forcing people to blackface. Let us change our skintone STOP BEING RACIST! SHAME ON YOU
"Please note that the Shadowhunterâs Demon form will remain visually different from the version that is present in the Korean game. Due to the range of skin tones available for player characters in our version of the game, the Shadowhunterâs demon form is a dark, shadow-like hue."
Iâd like to highlight the last bit where it says âdue to the range of skin tones availableâŚâ
What the hack does that mean?? Is global version of lost ark doesnât support all the colours?
And what? âThe shadowhunterââŚ
@Smilegate @AGS
The reason most people in NA/EU feel that this game is neglected by Smilegate and AGS is not in touch with the player base is things like belowâŚ
You gate the Black Cloak Version (Arkesia Honor) skin behind a $100 package. Most games charge $10-$15 a skin and you normally have put them out for $25-$30 still a premium price for a skin and most of these cannot even be dyed. And now to gate this version of the skin behind a $100 package??? Just unbelievable, or in this case very âŚ
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@Roxx @Sandovall we were incredibly excited for the KR demon form as it is in KR, not this. You cannot even see the characters face, what are you guys doing? Just let KR things be as they are. In the lost ark discord there are hundreds of demonic impulse shadow hunters that are completely disappointed by this update they have been waiting for for months.
Reddit feedback to your change:
709 votes and 510 comments so far on Reddit
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Awesome work! This canât be overlooked any longer.
The Community has spoken. What will you do @Roxx ?
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i applaud the effort you put into compiling all these posts.
Although Roxx has responded that the SH changes will remain as they are, it will be good to get a more elaborate response.
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Thats so much work! Damn!
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A lot of people wish they come with a compromise or some way to improve the changes instead of stuck with an very inferior degraded version implemented in our version.
Third Option: If it has to stay âshadowy blueâ â PLEASE MAKE IT LOOK BETTER AND NOT A BLOB.
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topbao
November 30, 2022, 2:36am
#8
You put more work into this post than AGS/SG did with our SH version.
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Pusheen
November 30, 2022, 8:16am
#9
Iâve lost all hope, guysâŚ
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Schulky
November 30, 2022, 8:37am
#10
Thatâs what they want you to do to shut up about this topic and sweep it under the rug
This is embarrasing. I have to play my Demonic as a washed out character instead of the original korean one.
remember korean are laughing at us on inven canât post screens or link cause i got ban
They wont change it guys, get over it. As long as the cash keeps flowing in AGS doesnt give a shit about us players.
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Its exactly as you say, as long as they get money from players no matter what they do they´ll continue with their woke agenda. It is obvious they never play their own game, the number of black skinned Shadowhunters is very low but no matter that they make SH demon form black, also they never listen what playerbase said to them in forums asking if not begging to leave as it is in the Kr version the new SH transformation.
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Pusheen
November 30, 2022, 12:50pm
#17
can you send in private message?
itâs not hard to find and iâm sure there is post on forum with links on it
