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It’s not sustainable unless you’re a millionaire. You’re looking a several thousands to get 1 piece to 20+
I think that you got it wrong. Usually, a tiny fraction of players provide most of the profit. What you just said is that 88% of SG’s profits come from casuals, which basically go against every freemium game (mobile or not) ever made
Most of their profit comes from skins. You can look up their quarterly reports
Most likely not true at all then lmao
Just think about it: why would anyone make a game that requires several thousands from entry level to high end, which offers you packs and cristals and whatnot on every corner of the game, if your main income comes from skins?
…wouldn’t be better to make the game ultra acessible and get more players which would buy even more skins
makes zero sense, i’m sorry.
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I won’t spend a dime on gearing. I’ll move gold / crystals around and do some Mari’s shop but that’s it. I believe Zeals coined the term ‘Rage Honing’ and that’s what a lot of whales are doing.
They also went further to point out the Raid ilvls required for the KR version and a lot of players already exceed majority of them. Also pointed out streamers do that for views. It’s a trick.
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What doesn’t make sense ? They give you all the tools to be f2p (at least in KR) while offering you the option to whale out if you want to? It’s a win win no?
I don’t get why people are so surprised they make most of their money off skins. Has anyone here not played league of legends, or other games with skins? Maplestory makes its money the same way, except their systems are way worse and way more horrible for f2p.
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yeah, its pretty clear that you are clueless indeed
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If I’m not mistaken Limited time skins are never sold for Blue Crystals. RC only.
I don’t know if that will change for NA/EU but that’s my understanding for KR.
People can turn around and sell them for gold of course but RC is required to buy them.
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I just play 30 min a day only 2 chaos and alt+f4
As far as I know, it’s against the law to falsify quarterly reports and could result in multiple lawsuits & jail time so I doubt any multi million dollar company would attempt it.
Now thats something reasonable
It means that skins act more as a bridge between f2p and whales, and would make sense that they are massively popular and acessible.
However it still implies that the people buying those seek currency, and thats usually related to whaling, which comes back to the first point - whaling carries the game. Unless casuals also tend to buy skins and sell them for gold, which is unlikely (?)
i mean that its simply wrong / misleading / misinterpreted. Read above
True, I never said whales were bad for the game anyways only that most regions do not feel compelled to spend money on honing
Thats the thing, i really think they are compelled to spend. These games (lost ark has the same predatory systems as your average mobile game) tend to incite people to spend by messing with our nature, not exactly a regional or cultural thing. A very good example of this is genshin impact, which opened wallets of millions of americans like it was never seen before, still making 80M through mobile alone every month. People love to feel strong, avoid the FOMO or just get the new cool thing that its there.
They way you get to the spedings may vary (as @Xorn mentioned from selling skins, which is also common in BDO) be it from skins or buying some currency directly, but the idea that whaling tends to carry most of the profit is a given on pretty much every game.
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OP, don’t bother trying to bring sense to the entitled NA/EU crowd. They want everything handed to them in silver-platter and lose their shit when everything in-game can’t be obtained easily.
You can say whatever you want, but if you had any brains you could look it up yourself. It’s public information and has been discussed by the dev before. You’re literally talking about things that you’re factually wrong on and making a topic about something that’s incorrect.
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You didn’t even bother to read the rest of the discussion before writing this.
Cool 
Well, they manufactured a race by giving us T3 from the start then releasing Argos way too early. I don’t ‘think’ they will attempt that predatory behavior again. They got kicked for it.
Time will have to tell on how the game goes. I personally want the classes and more backbone content. Island are like a lottery. You find a trash grind or you find a fun story with cut scenes.
My main is 1360 and taking my sweet time because I don’t care about playing the market mini-game. I want to see more of this world… with more voice acting preferably.
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You can’t really blame them since gear score is king in western mmos so it’s only natural for them to think it’s the same in Lost Ark, get frustrated about honing, then rage.
It’s a process that’s meant to force you to slow down. I’m just trying to inform people that it’s always like that so they can save themselves some frustration in the future