I don’t think anyone is supporting bots, we all want to lower their presence and impact on the game, as they are a cancer. But this “fix” (that doesn’t actually stop bots) harms tens of thousands of real people that are part of the community and soul of the game. Does the desired end justify any means, even when those means dont work to achieve that end?
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but Roxx didnt mention when they implemented the VPN block. I know people still playing right now with a vpn
You mean like yours of basically accusing me of RMT or running bots because I got locked out of the game for playing legit?
true dat
if i understand their comment correctly, it won’t kick you out of the game but you will not be able to log back in
It is unfortunate that it came to this… but not surprising given their track record in dealing with the bot problem up to this point. Its a desperation measure for sure.
Most people are just heavily driven by feelings, FOMO, VERY SHORT TERM effects and contrarian reactionism. In other words, nothing constructive.
Meanwhile literally no one says this about KR region who has a far more strict form of this.
It all flowcharts to oblivion anyway. ANY outcome can be flowcharted to a massively negative game crushing chunk of hyperbole because no one actually wants the best for a game. It’s not this game, its virtually every game in the last 10 years that has to deal with this cancer.
She pinned it in the news section now so it is new as of today.
If you have friends connected currently with a VPN that would confirm my other question about active blocking… odds are when they disconnect they will no longer be able to reconnect.
VPN ban is basically the only effective way to stop people from mass creating accounts short of keeping track of stuff like national IDs for which AGS would have to deal with many different international laws. It’s unfortunate but this VPN ban does work as can be seen by other regions such as KR and JP. For people saying just ban Chinese IP addresses even if they did that the bots would just get around it with a VPN which is exactly why they are tackling VPNs now.
Welp. That sucks.
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It does. Sorry dude 
you mean like the steam trusted account? xD
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The worst way it hurts me so bad
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Steam trusted accounts is just a timegate. You can see how well it worked as soon as one month had passed since the initial AGS announcement. After one month passed and bots gained trusted status they were basically back in full (if not greater) force.
I’m not sure i understand the argument “no one says this about KR which is strict”. Does the lack of complaint mean that the draconian methods are correct?
If every game has to deal with botting, then why not try targeting what creates the incentive for the bots to exist instead of trying to cast a wide net that will target many innocents in the process? Bots exist because they want to earn money and will exploit things in the game that allow them to ear resources that can be traded for real money. Targeting those methods would be far more effective than banning so many people from playing at all.
Oooor or maybe it’s just a response after seeing this thread? I dunno man. Talking to quite a few people I know that uses VPN and they said they can still use vpn
Je n’utilise aucun vpn et je me retrouve à ne pas pouvoir jouer super ça…
yes it was a time gate and a small money block as people sprout the fact that here are so many bots because F2P
Because after that change the game is technically not F2P if you don’t use steam for anything else.
Yet bots didn’t care and yet this steam trusted rubbish is still in place while it had absolutely 0 effect.
at this point they just throw sh*t on a wall and see what sticks.
VPN blocks will not kill the bots.
Also the chinese have many other ways to enter the game and sell gold.
You know what this basically means? RMT will be more expensive probably but not gone.
Ever heard of china farmers? Yo those guys don’t exclusively sit in China either
It means people are completely fine with it there, but its different over here because it directly affects them. Yeah, people are short-sighted, one-dimensional and never think to consider ANYTHING until it hits them directly. Then they argue with the deepest of vitriol and anger.
Nah. Countless games disable trading or severly restrict it to the point where there’s no point of bots rofl. I don’t like dealing with no-trade games so botting is something that will just exist in all games that have it.
Yes.
Shut down the auction house and mail systems. That would kill all the bots on the spot you are right. It also ruins the game on the spot.
AGS should be blocking MAC address as I said to a friend of mine (you guys have the ways on doing it example - DB, kibana searching, block access) but you should block (Chinese IP or even the VPN Express that most Chinese users have bots use). By blocking VPN the users from Australia/New Zealand and the Polynesia can’t play and since they are Commonwealth make the math in what can go wrong.
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We can ALREADY see the VPN block has NO effect on the bots, look at the steam charts the huge dip is straight back to what it was
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chinese are a bit smarter in the IT department than our AGS/SG overlords lul
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