Most of these problems are erected because the amount of cognitive bias on that happens on forums or social media that their progression level is probably the same as your average player. The average player like you’ve said before just opens the game, plays a few hours and stops and it can be a great thing in your life.
But those people are affected now primarily by influencers and sponsored players who burn through content VERY quickly and when they stop, they move to another game, one with hype. This is how the MMO community works. What I’m trying to tell people is while this was a great one it will not be a very long stop, most people will be gone in the next five months.
You know very well that it’s a spectrum not a binary and some are more predatory than others. You don’t need a 200iq to tell the payment model for Lost Ark is like a throwaway phone game when it deserves better.
I’m not 100% disagreeing with you but what your post started out as and what you’re stating now are not the same thing. Your initial post was a strange pity party for whales and now what you’re saying is a little more reasonable and not the wild rantings of a lunatic
Yeah that’s just who I am as a person. Plus, conversations are always better than thread openings. Those are just calls to attention. I’ll say one thing, this thread is keeping people in the discussion, and I do appreciate that.
I stopped updating the OP because I realized the meat of the thread is in the replies.
When they released the joint statement they said the majority of players weren’t in T3 and spent more time doing horizontal content then they anticipated. I think the hole in gaming for this style of game is huge & I don’t think I’m a small minority, just average. In the long run people who aren’t rushing ilvl who enjoy the game as a whole will spend more $$ over time on skins, decorations, like skill elixir, pets, mounts + more than the content pushers who will leave in a month.
Edit - that’s my hope anyway. I think there’s room for LA to carve it’s niche with a loyal player base, they just have to sieze it & not worry about sponsored players & all
The problem is that you can’t change the economic model alone. That would be a complete rework. And i don’t think that is an option for Smilegate.
Sorting out problematic aspects of the core systems (which could be acheived with threads like this, but unfortunately 95% of threads in the forum are mindless complains) and adjusting them is way more likely to happen than changing the whole system.
I’ve yet to see one MMO where this is the case. MMO’s only exist in two varieties, you either RMT or inject into the game directly. It’s also hilarious when people complain about Korean games giving too much grind and now we have it out of the other side of the mouth that they’re to be respected for grinding. What happened to grinds being tedious and just a way for companies to tempt you to spend? All this post reaffirms for me is that the West is delusional.
The changes would have to be fast and the QA would have to work overtime but they could pull it off and make this a top five MMO in the West for a few years. Time will tell.
huh Breshelza is 25-30 mins at 1600+ with everyone having ONLY Meta builds with all their Correct cards For example the “Light of Salvation” set you’ll want all 6 cards with a 18 piece Awakening at a minimum.
Merely stating the 20 mins just isn’t entirely true you’re forgetting our inexperience as well if you really think we are going to jump into these 20 or even 30 min boss fights and get them done in that time frame you’re delusional lets not forget Breshelza as an Example 28 Billion HP, 27 Unique Attacks a couple of Group wipe mechanics and you seem to think the player base is going to get it done… More then 95% of player base have yet to Complete a guardian raid without anyone in the team dying so if you think you’re going to be spending 20 mins and no more then that, I’d check your ale because I think it’s been spiked.
I was just trying to be less aggressive and emotional so I edited the title a couple times. Nonetheless I’m proud of your ability to live on this hemisphere I guess? Not sure what you’re getting at.
Hmm. I think with time it will settle down. The KR playerbase doesn’t want big item level increases as they like getting to a point and then staying there.
I think we will see some grumpiness when the average forum user doesn’t understand +25 is optional. That there are some “whale bait” systems that you can just ignore.
A large issue is communication and knowledge really. Argos is a great example of this. They released this knowing that the team saw it as a stepping stone content. A nice extra weekly clear for those who are there. But the Western audience saw the word RAID and were mad. I wasn’t mad because I knew in the grand scheme of the game it didnt matter that I wasn’t there, but I think they could struggle going forward if they don’t find a way to communicate properly going forward.
In conclusion I don’t think the system needs to change, I think communication should change.
I do think you are mostly right. I personally am still enjoying the game (mostly) but my friend group has mostly quit for the reasons you indicated above. To be fair, most of that group (10 of us, 2 of us left) have families and careers, etc. Somehow they had time for wow and progressed pretty high level and played for a decade or more. However, they don’t have time or patience or financial motivation to sink into LA. The progression paths didn’t do it for them and thus they have left. Sucks for me and my remaining friend but it is what it is.
Of course this is a super small sample and likely not representative of the mass playerbase in any statistical model but I would assume there are at least some in similar situations. In the end, they (not me so don’t come for me) stated that the game just wasn’t made/intended for them.
what game are you playing. Lost ark to just progress vertically takes the least amount of your time compared to any other mmo. You can literally play for an hour or two and be done for the day.
Thank you for the insightful and contributive response. I think yeah, ultimately if you want to keep progressing vertically at a steady rate after Tier 3, it definitely becomes a niche game. Still fun for me mostly because of chaos dungeons and alts and having too much time, but I just know that when more people Tier 3 honing they’ll wander off. You know what that’s okay, I just think this games combat is just too good to stop playing for now.
Thanks for the reply I appreciate someone compliment my writing instead of trashing it :’) made me feel a bit better this morning. Maybe things will improve now that the AGS president stepped down. Who knows.
The community talks a lot about how much better reactions are to civilized posts, yet bait posts fly to the moon. Have a lovely day and again thank you for reading my content.
The problem is your definition of “relevant”. Gold River doesn’t try to dethrone or replace shit. He just out to offer the western players who like this kind of game and progression (either through time or money) a game which they can stay in and enjoy. Because God knows we don’t need more “we give you everything yesterday” kind of MMO like they are made in NA/EU.
Don’t get me started on the glorification of Gold River or SGR. Did you don’t know their other game CrossFire is the most popular game in world? Did you also know it completely tanked in the West despite their “best efforts”?
Because they’re terrible at Western adaptations, and have a track record to prove it.
Gold River does not care about you. The other regions don’t have a fantasy land better version like most of this community clings to, they just have a vastly different gaming culture. What they tried to do is portray him as a YoshiP, they took it right from ARR’s playbook and completely missed the entire point: follow-up and speaking to the community directly.
