The changes would have to be fast and the QA would have to work overtime but they could pull it off and make this a top five MMO in the West for a few years. Time will tell.
huh Breshelza is 25-30 mins at 1600+ with everyone having ONLY Meta builds with all their Correct cards For example the “Light of Salvation” set you’ll want all 6 cards with a 18 piece Awakening at a minimum.
Merely stating the 20 mins just isn’t entirely true you’re forgetting our inexperience as well if you really think we are going to jump into these 20 or even 30 min boss fights and get them done in that time frame you’re delusional lets not forget Breshelza as an Example 28 Billion HP, 27 Unique Attacks a couple of Group wipe mechanics and you seem to think the player base is going to get it done… More then 95% of player base have yet to Complete a guardian raid without anyone in the team dying so if you think you’re going to be spending 20 mins and no more then that, I’d check your ale because I think it’s been spiked.
You said Lost Ark won’t float in the West…that’s a general statement for everyone in the West. I am in the west, and I’m fine.
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I was just trying to be less aggressive and emotional so I edited the title a couple times. Nonetheless I’m proud of your ability to live on this hemisphere I guess? Not sure what you’re getting at.
Hmm. I think with time it will settle down. The KR playerbase doesn’t want big item level increases as they like getting to a point and then staying there.
I think we will see some grumpiness when the average forum user doesn’t understand +25 is optional. That there are some “whale bait” systems that you can just ignore.
A large issue is communication and knowledge really. Argos is a great example of this. They released this knowing that the team saw it as a stepping stone content. A nice extra weekly clear for those who are there. But the Western audience saw the word RAID and were mad. I wasn’t mad because I knew in the grand scheme of the game it didnt matter that I wasn’t there, but I think they could struggle going forward if they don’t find a way to communicate properly going forward.
In conclusion I don’t think the system needs to change, I think communication should change.
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I do think you are mostly right. I personally am still enjoying the game (mostly) but my friend group has mostly quit for the reasons you indicated above. To be fair, most of that group (10 of us, 2 of us left) have families and careers, etc. Somehow they had time for wow and progressed pretty high level and played for a decade or more. However, they don’t have time or patience or financial motivation to sink into LA. The progression paths didn’t do it for them and thus they have left. Sucks for me and my remaining friend but it is what it is.
Of course this is a super small sample and likely not representative of the mass playerbase in any statistical model but I would assume there are at least some in similar situations. In the end, they (not me so don’t come for me) stated that the game just wasn’t made/intended for them.
Not sure what they will do now.
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what game are you playing. Lost ark to just progress vertically takes the least amount of your time compared to any other mmo. You can literally play for an hour or two and be done for the day.
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Thank you for the insightful and contributive response. I think yeah, ultimately if you want to keep progressing vertically at a steady rate after Tier 3, it definitely becomes a niche game. Still fun for me mostly because of chaos dungeons and alts and having too much time, but I just know that when more people Tier 3 honing they’ll wander off. You know what that’s okay, I just think this games combat is just too good to stop playing for now.
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Thanks for the reply I appreciate someone compliment my writing instead of trashing it :’) made me feel a bit better this morning. Maybe things will improve now that the AGS president stepped down. Who knows.
The community talks a lot about how much better reactions are to civilized posts, yet bait posts fly to the moon. Have a lovely day and again thank you for reading my content. 
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The problem is your definition of “relevant”. Gold River doesn’t try to dethrone or replace shit. He just out to offer the western players who like this kind of game and progression (either through time or money) a game which they can stay in and enjoy. Because God knows we don’t need more “we give you everything yesterday” kind of MMO like they are made in NA/EU.
Don’t get me started on the glorification of Gold River or SGR. Did you don’t know their other game CrossFire is the most popular game in world? Did you also know it completely tanked in the West despite their “best efforts”?
Because they’re terrible at Western adaptations, and have a track record to prove it.
Gold River does not care about you. The other regions don’t have a fantasy land better version like most of this community clings to, they just have a vastly different gaming culture. What they tried to do is portray him as a YoshiP, they took it right from ARR’s playbook and completely missed the entire point: follow-up and speaking to the community directly.
So what? This is not the case for Lost Ark.
Oh, he does care about me or actually gamers like me to be fair. The ones who want a grind AND the option to spend bucks on skins as soon as they are out 
We “float” his visions. Yeah, I don’t use money to hone but well whatever. He just doesn’t care for gamers like the “usual western” ones shrug
You do you, but don’t assume things for others like “all this all that won’t float is bah”. I wish we had games like the Towers from the Manhwas. Thaaaat would fuck most western gamers up XD
What is not the case for Lost Ark, Western failure? That remains to be seen. It’s losing a lot of players. I don’t want it to fail in the same way CrossFire did, but it doesn’t look good and the director is not talking to us. Neither is the studio head of AGS in fact, he quit yesterday.
It’s not his job. Not everything will be catered to your specific needs. He is the one deciding what is a failure for him and his company. Not you. Not these 3k-5k forums warriors (yeah I know I’m one of them too, even though on the other side of the barricade). And most certainly not some loud money-grabbing streamers. He already said what he sees as a win and we are a lot above that.
As long as you hadn’t the option to stand there while they discussed why he is gone, you have no idea why and if it was correlated to SMG at all. Why do people assume everything revolves around something they are invested on hating right now?
I don’t know if you’re on the other side. I do think that your faith in SGR and Amazon is misguided, but we both want the game to succeed.
GW2 and FFXIV have more players doing story and horizontal “progression” than trying to get new gear through raids and compete at the highest PvE level, completely destroying your argument.
Most players get their gear from tomestones, so they’re still getting new gear.
Also everything is gated behind story, so if you’re still doing story, you can’t do raids anyway. And FFXIV doesn’t have any horizontal progression besides glamour.
That could be said for literally every PC game.
All I read is you saying ALL Western players won’t like Lost Ark because we’re all bursting with jealousy. FOMO has happened for me with Lost Ark, but it came and went. I’ve been inbetween 1340-1355 for two weeks now. I’m just playing and doing what I want and trying to get my alts into tier 3 to make it easier for my main and eventual main to progress. Does it bother me that some ppl have played 12-14 hours a day and not missed a single one and have 6+ alts in t3 and pushing phase 3 argos on their main? Nope. I’ve spent a few hundred dollars, not to “whale” but just because i enjoy the game. Sure I bought a bit of gold and a bit of blue crystals and things from Mari’s shop, but a lot of it was power-up my alts a bit and buy cosmetic things. I’m just having fun. I suggest players start focusing on having fun and less about gear score. That will come in time. Why is there this massive NEED to be keeping up with the whales or no lifers? That’s their choice. Just be happy with where you are and what you’re doing. If you’re not having fun, why play?
I actually enjoy that this game is not raid or die.
I am only level 50 and Ilvl 350, but I already have 150 hours played. There is so much to do and every day I unlock something new.
Sure, the point may come when I have everything unlocked, but maybe at this time new features have been added already.
I honestly couldnt care less about raids, they have always been a nuisance to me.