Lost Ark's Honing System is Fair and Respects your time

That’s every single MMO so good luck finding one not like that :woman_shrugging:

If anything LA does it the best and most fair.

i was saying 89 is an incredibly low number and not enough time spent honing to judge the system when you havent reached the actual low rates

and all RNG is the same actually, random numbers are random

sounds like you’re on the “shit system” bandwagon

mmo genre isnt for you

“Oh no I failed an upgrade, on a system that isn’t designed to guarantee 100% chance of success, who would of saw this coming, this is definitely the games fault.”
/thread

True. But the difference is that other games, beside their “hamster wheels” the hey also give you plenty of “other wheels”, while Lost Ark is literally built on dailies.
Everything in LA is either daily (daily chaos, guardian, una’s, islands, rapport, etc) or weekly (abyss, Argos,etc).
Once you completed your Adventure Tome, there is literally nothing else to do except repeating same events every day.

Again you describe every MMO.

Name one MMO not like this?

The difference is that other mmo’s “Adventure Tome” take years to complete, while LA’s Adventure Tome takes 50h.
It’s called burnout.
And what you do after you are “burnout” of content? Dailies :)))

Oh my lord, how can you be this stupid and still be so possessed to vomit all over public spaces like this? It being low is literally my point. I don’t need to hone my way up to 1415 to judge the system. I can see just fine how it works from here.

The way RNG is implemented what it’s used for matters.

Finally you got one thing correct.

And we’re back to misses. Sorry but I’m not going to just forsake the genre that has so many positive core features just because it’s having a hard time shaking a couple toxic systems and philosophies.

No one told anyone to rush it, you can easily take your time and enjoy the game and run alts. This game has very high replay value, try alts they’re really fun! I have about 4 I maintain :smiley:

if you dont like lost ark dont play it, rng upgrading is nothing new

Lost Ark is great. The honing system is garbage.

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the honing system is part of lost ark and you need to interact with it if you want to do end game raids, make up your mind

It’s part of the game currently, but it is not a core aspect of the game. You could remove it entirely for a different progression system and the actual game would remain unchanged. From what I’ve heard they changed it once to this toxic, predatory version of the honing system. They can change it again if they’re convinced it would be better for their bottom line to do so.

it doesnt need to be changed just cause some people are upset over it

“it could always be changed or removed” is what people who are unhappy with a game always spew on forums

if you dont like it dont play it

Say it louder for the people in the back :clap:

Game is great. Honing system is shit. Not sure how many times I have to repeat this. I’m not one to throw away an entire apple just because there’s a soft spot. Why would I quit a game that I enjoy nearly all the core gameplay of just because of one awful-but-easily-changeable system?

So you saw the bad spot of the apple and still bit into knowing you wouldn’t like it? sounds like the problem isnt with the game

No, I just remove that spot and enjoy the other 99% of the apple that’s still fantastic.

the problem with your metaphor is you cant remove the honing system :smiling_face_with_three_hearts:

Sure you can. It’s one of the least consequential systems in the game to change. SG just needs to believe that making the western version friendly towards players, instead of toxic towards them, will improve their bottom line.

I almost feel sorry for people like you, you’ve completely convinced yourself that the upgrading system thats been in the game for a long time is gonna get changed over 2 months of people upset, when RNG upgrading systems are nothing new

it wont get changed
it shouldn’t get changed
its player friendly
its not toxic
its not predatory
its not even backwards progression

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