Its kinda weird how people talk about him spamming positivity posts in a swamp of negative posts. I don’t see a single person talk about the same negative post over and over again. Let the man praise the game. What is so wrong about that.
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Please explain how a system with a GUARANTEED success after [x] failure is predatory. If there was no pity system then yeah, I would agree.
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See, a lot of threads have a headline that you may see as “not helpful” but there are some really great discussions once you actually read the post (obviously there are some toxic, and not helpful posts as well). There were some really good threads about this, especially one pointing out how this game’s design is predatory. Well constructed post that broke it down why it is predatory, and not a toxic post that was made for the sake of complaining. So to dismiss any feedback as not helpful and toxic, is simply stupid.
This person’s goal is to argue with people, but the difference is they’re not being genuine about it. They are sugar coating it as a nice positive mentality, no swearing or any bannable behavior, praising the game, etc. because they know if they stepped out of line, they would get instantly banned from the forums for making a few dozen of these threads every single day.
How are they arguing with anyone? You’re all coming in here to literally argue with him about posting this:
Yes, that is super toxic and not helpful at all. That is literally designed to argue and bait people into toxicity?
Really? Really!?
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They don’t like it because it means that people are having fun and don’t share their doomposting views.
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No, the upgrade system is rubbish, stop throwing flowers at this game.
pew pew
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You are entitled to your opinion, and thats okay. But not everyone thinks the same.
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The system is literally designed to get you used to progressing via honing successes, and focus exclusively on your honing successes and failures, and then suddenly you get to end-game and it swaps to being “pity-based” progression. Except that’s not how it’s presented, with you needing X amount of mats to progress an item but having a surprise bonus chance to progress sooner. The way it’s presented is the same as it is presented on the way up to this point, and the way the player perceives the progression from there is failure after failure after failure after failure. It is specifically designed to make you feel as poorly as possible to encourage you to make poor decisions with your money to progress.
The fact that with enough experience and game knowledge you can reframe your perception of the system to the “correct” one is irrelevant. The system is designed to part players with money by manipulating them in a very specific, very callous way. This is the definition of predatory design.
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It has an inbuilt pity system, how is it rubbish? It respects player time more than most MMOs.
Serious my dude? It was 10 minutes between replies. You can literally see my little icon at the bottom of the thread when I’m typing. I’m also playing the game that you apparently find without flaw and beyond criticism.
People F2P to 1400+, people F2P their entire experience even without hitting T3 and have hundreds and hundreds of hours.
It’s your personal responsibility to control your FOMO and your wallet, if it’s not this game you’d have done this anywhere else.
You can’t call the game predatory when you don’t acknowledge personal responsibility imo 
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Okay so conversely, the fact that you don’t have the willpower to know when to stop, or wait for some more free mats based on progression is irrelevant in your argument.
If I really want to break it down, using your own logic:
You are upset with the presentation of the honing system and would prefer it to say “Chance of Failure [x]%” as opposed to “Chance of Success” because you (hyperbolic you, not Sunblessed per se) do not have enough willpower or mental fortitude to know when to stop / not swipe?
By that logic we can argue the packaging on cake is predatory, the design of the pringles can is predatory because you know, “Once you pop, you just can’t stop!” amirite?
And anyway, not to derail this any further. Homie was like
“Honing is alright for me, because I don’t get hung up on ‘pushing my number’. Instead I go sailing and collect ships and do rapport and other horizontal content” and then all y’all rolled in talking about how he was an AGS shill and whatever BS because he was like “yay level 7 estoque, stuff do but I don’t have that much fun in POE or WoW with horizontal content”
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Wasn’t showing up. will edit for removal.
Have a read.
Also I’m done arguing about the OP, if you can’t see how they’re obviously a troll that baits people into arguments, then there’s no point for me to explain it to you.
Word will take a look now.
Okay read the bit about the honing and its literally the same argument about presentation and psychology.
Guess cake and candy is predatory too.
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