Major difference I noticed after coming onto NA from KR

This is true, but culture does, in fact, have a huge impact on this as can be clearly seen through the differences between versions of the same game, the initial reactions from the west upon release, and the way content is treated in different cultures, Artist being a prime example.

Difference in version is because of the publisher not culture. Look at the shadowhunter or whatever… People want the same things but its like that blizzard quote “…you think you do but you don’t”. Versions are different because publisher decide so. Early release was disaster - promised for early starters to get better chance for nickname you want (because you connect earlier than others). Game comes out… steam players left to wait hours till it’s on and boom welcome to few hours que because other platform people had no problems and nicknames? Well it is what it is.

You lost track again, or misunderstood what I wrote.
The differences I’m referring to are not the client files/changes by the publisher, but the following;

and what did i misunderstood ? what is wrong with artist that it has something to do with culture?. I m lost why artist is prime example of culture?

I honestly wish that was the response I got from every person on these forums. This would be a significantly better environment in that case. I’d rather not get into it, but thank you for a decent conversation.

No problem. It just character with different kit and strategies. New class, people should be excited for it and that’s all. It’s pixels. If you find problem with artist you should ask yourself - are you excited how pixels looks or are you excited of gameplay and new skills to try out and see if its for you or you prefer other classes.

No issue doing clown pugs and with other’s alts with + 19 weapon .
Just do mech , and class synergy would matter if the weapon honing is lacking a little

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I will take a +20, +19 with 1500+ ilvl is a quite a bit exaggerated…but if i don’t have enough ppl, and guy is properly gemed and engraved. i’ll take it i guess.

people do favor higher weapons, well the good people at least

is that what u are watching only the weapon gear score ? what if u take a guy who is +21 wep but 50 quality and 4x3x1 engravings but i take a guy who has 19 wep with 100 quality and 5x3 ?

I disagree KR culture has many positives.
Before we point fingers a history lesson.

USA dropped more bombs in Korea both North and South than the entirety of WW fucking 2 Pacific campaign which involved multiple countries including Japan. Korea ranks as one of the most bombed countries in history Seoul was leveled to kingdom come…

We conveniently ignore what we did to South Korea. After the war Korea was pretty much fucked and it took a lot of ingenuity, risk taking, hard work to climb out of that hell hole. That mentality brought us LG, Samsung, Hyundai. Understandably its there culture and it “works” we should respect their customs too.

All cultures have all kinds of downsides and upsides.

KR culture has quite few downsides when it comes to living there - and two major issues are regarding Education and Work , which are very important.

Also i aint from america.
Also, history doesnt matter - i am talking about Culture, not History.

history frames culture

KR strive to be the best and is “cut throat” precisely because they remember the days when they were destitute and had nothing.

The elderly had to make many sacrifices to make Korea what it is today. You were criticizing KR work effort which requires them to be the best, but disregard the WHY. After telling you as expected unsurprisingly dismissive. KR is a brutally competitive environment because less than 70 years ago the country has been in nothing but war and occupation. The economy only recently recovered from decades of exploitation starting 2001 and has shown tremendous growth beating all odds. The Korea we know today only really existed for 21 years and obv they don’t want to turn back. Its why they work hard, education, many of your complaints, etc.

Many Asian countries had similar experiences like for example China and famine.
Just saying shouldn’t write blanket statements talking shit about countries without understanding where they come from. Also, the drinking culture you mentioned is not 100% true either.

I judge their character overall.
You can have a 19 weapon and do more dps than someone with a 21 weapon due to other things. Most importantly I judge if they “built the character right” where if ANYTHING is weird I assume they don’t understand the game and will therefore mess up mechanics. It isn’t fullproof, but it is all I have to judge a persons mechanic success rate (which is the only thing I care about on clown).

Which korean server timeline are you comparing to?
Because 2-ish years ago raids had an attack power requirement. Anything below wouldn’t deal damage (much like the item level requirements we had on Argos. 1390 sitting in Phase3 not dealing damage.)

Also everything on the korean servers is farm content. The faster you get through, the better for everyone. Weapon gives you the highest AP, resulting in the highest reduction in time required, as all the “farmers” have the mechanics down to not need any defenses.

And that clearly is not LA case.

At least it was not.

Know valtan and vykas is generally farm content, but even now there are many that still mess up mechs and dont know patterns well.

A “non-factor” wdym bro, you actually just have no clue right, why don’t put real numbers insteed ? I’m definitely lazy to do exactly maths right, but I can tell you that it’s at least 5% from +19 to +21, and close to 10% from +19 to +23.

And you call that a “non-factor” ? well ok I guess. Good thing we do not have same standards when it’s about “doing damage”, because we won’t play in same parties.
Plus tbh someone that doesn’t put any effort into optimizing the very basic (i.e. your gearing setup), I don’t think you put any more effort into optimizing your gameplay and uptime, so yeaahh… no thanks.

You can enjoy your +19 weapon parties in Abrelshud just fine, nothing wrong with that tho. On my side I’ll just make sure that +19 weapon stay away from my parties, so you guys can enjoy your +19 parties just fine without me “spoiling” damage you know …

Standard rule for Weapon is :

  • Req. at iLvL of the content
  • Pref. +1 hone from iLvL content.
    With the exception of Brel G4 where +21 is already 5 item lvl more than content, and +22 is a bit “over-the-top” for G4.

If you attempt to join a raid with a weapon lower than the requiered item lvl as a dps, you just yell to everyone “hey look I’m a cheapo”, basically. People don’t like cheapo, period. Tbh if it was just me, you should have both average and weapon item-level to enter a specific raid. I mean, the game should gatekeep you from both average ilvl AND Weapon ilvl

PS : you can do maths yourself Base_AP=sqrt(MainStat*WeaponPower/6)

I mean I cleared Clown recently with my 1477.5 4x3+2 Instant Critflux that runs Inferno instead of Reverse Gravity because all the DPS in the world doesn’t make the skill any less garbage to use

Even got my first upgraded piece and damage MVP on G2 against two 1490’s

That was nice, looking forward to doing it again this reset

learn to read.

non-factor because will your average pug with +20/21/22 weapon with +7 gem skip any mechanics in the raid?

LMAO NO

imagine sitting in party finder for what 5-10+ mins? waiting for a “JUCIER” because you are so bad you need some one with “slightly” higher dmg that will literally skip NO MECHS in the raid just to make you feel less insecure.

when you could just take a +19 and could have cleared in the time you waited for that “juicer”

so please…do go on to explain how anyone with 5%-10% or even 20% will help you skip ZERO mechanics regardless but “hey they will make us clear 1-2 mins faster!” while you sit in party finder for over 5-10 mins so that advantage is already gone LMAO

go on buddy do the math what a joke.

do note we are literally talking about clown the current content specifically NOT brel so idk what you smoking there either

This is not KR we dont flare when we are number 1. If NA catch up on 1:1 basis to KR. There is a lot of players in NA who will surpass KR players.