Why is everyone so scared of wiping? Games suck when you can just beat everything with ease.
The fun of this game is dying lots until you learn and get better to the point you can dodge every mechanic perfectly.
In my experience people don’t understand x3 or x3+1 or any of the easiest mechanics in the game that are now voiced when fighting the boss. Like picking the right colored orb, or standing in the right spot a couple of times. People are literally low IQ in NA to not understand this.
nah, u just leave, this region doesnt deserve to be carried thru content, leave them in the zoo cages like they were for t1 guardians asking for nerfs. Let them rot there and quit the game
Or just have fun and help the little turtles understand mechanics so they can do future content with you.
aye man i fully support you if you want to do that, i myself got dailies to do, so no time to spend 6 hours for no clear
Lol, if your spending 6 hours on a clear thats not progression, then you have other issues. Usually i only have 2-4 slots for randoms due to having people come back.
I’m always using the ‘Find party’ and we usually win… i did p1 3 weeks ago and now its the second week i did p2! Argos is not that hard! Just find groups with good stats and engravings… the moment I reached 1370 I created 4 engraving gear and last week i reached 1400 swiftness! I play bard and the accessories and stones are expensive… i think everyone can invest some gold for their characters! The mechanics are so easy!
you got a point there, and maybe they should reduce the amount to five if u beg while flashing ur panties
my issues are the playerbase, as i have explained a multitude of times, if i knew other languages id try to say it 3 other ways for you
Yes random find party not completely random matchmaking. If you sent it, it’s either you are not playing LA or simply lai lai
“The mechanics are so easy” and pugs fail them
Honestly it’s all about luck and what kind of people you get. I was 1385 when I got my first P3 Argos clear (paladin) and it was 25 minute raid, with noone over 1405, no wipes.
Then just this last week I managed to get absolute braindead animals in Indolence raid on my alt that failed run in circles turtle mech 3 times and gave up. All 100+ roster level. Then I failed it again on another group, just unbelievable.
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Yeah with my luck I end up with Pepe who can’t pass turtle as well. I have low confidence in my fellow NA folks
Next week me and my friend will probably do P3… he is a sorc 1405 and i will be a bard with 1385… we can create a team if you want since we are the only who play (the rest of our friends quit)… the only thing we are bad at is the call at p2 argos… i have a photo about the shapes but i cant distinguish which one is which. But i am good at keeping people alive! 
My msg is off topic but idc… if you are interested or whoever is interested we can create a 8-man team, join discord (if you want) and play Argos weekly!
I was so focused to write a decent reply that I forgot this was a troll post
Matchmaking in general can be a nightmare for anything, either join a guild or use party finder
You ruined it with lailai, too much rage honing ptsd in this game.
Fail 10 times in a row,walking away, head down then you hear it… “LAI LAI!” 
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You got me at first half 
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Most end bosses in World of Warcraft have well over 500 scripts, and people always manage to PuG it, eventually.
It will be hell at launch and I doubt any matchmaking will be able to do Valtan. After a couple weeks, it will be just like pugging any other Boss.
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Reading most of these posts on here you are correct. Many like to think of themselves as hard core gamers when in reality they pump hours into failing mechanics, they then laugh at other people failing same mechanics to somehow make them feel better. It’s a sad life but many gamers on forums seem to buy into it