New steam users forced to pay money in game to get trusted status

Thats the point, its not happening to all the new players, it mostly happens if you have a new steam accnt and new to accnt in lost ark. I read some old accnts got affected but a very miniscle amnt. Overall the issue is coming from Steam and the only way to bypass it for now is buy something in LA.

If ppl think its scummy then I suggest they quit it wont get better. But if they like the game enough just and you think its worth it the $10 atleast, and mind you, that $10 is not a fee to use the market place, you can use them for anything in the shop. I saw some new mokokos in Elzowin bought the pack with 30 days and mount for their bypass solution.

Ofcourse its bad, hope there is a fix but for now they are not motivated enough to fix it.

that’s not true, lost ark has it’s own flagging system for trusted accounts, steam has absolutely nothing to do with it.

that’s fair, but the problem is that they lie to you that you don’t have to pay, then they give you false information and treat you like sh!t, so I decided not to pay 10$

they changed their answers to how system works about 4 times in the last 3 months.

Discrimination is a discrimination.

If that was the situation since thr launch, this game wouldnt have me defending it on all fronts now.

I dont think there s a way to defend that decision. If there was a way, i would have found it already :slight_smile:

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My steam acc is 10 yo and i’m not trusted either :slight_smile: + This communauty is even worse than the incompetent bunch of ***** behind this game, like this volfoss guy srsly telling people to quit when they are complaining about some leggit issue? Did you have to pay to access market? No? Then why should we? Aaaaaand here i’ll stop otherwise there’s no way i’m not geting banned lmao

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What do you mean its not true, It does, or else it wont be an isolated incident and all accounts have to buy something in LA to get trusted. Theres something fundamentally wrong with how LA was implemented in Steam. And as I said, they are not motivated or know how to to fix it (example: disconnects are tied to the anti cheat) since they make money. Scummy? ofcourse! im not defending it. False information? I dont know, maybe. Most ppl know going into the game thats its P2W not F2P. They will try to get your money.

They did not discriminate, it seems to be an issue about steam integration. Other countries have their own launcher and this was not an issue. EAC disc issue is tied to steam and I hate that they did not not fix it completely after 9 months.

Easy there, ppl know its a legit issue and it sucks, game needs more new players. Unfortunately changes will be very slow because LA has a P2W system. Now its just a matter of if you like the game enough to see through its huge flaws to continue playing or just quit.

On a side note. I wish I SS my convo with one buddy of mine, he said that he bought forspoken, a very bad game in his opinion, he said (not verbatim), “I paid money of that shitty game, now why can I be frugal in a game I like.”

let me explain to you, getting trusted on steam is easy, you just add 5€ and you get trusted in like 2 weeks, however lost ark trusted status is different, they could just flag all steam trusted accounts and make them trusted in lost ark, but that’s not the case, they have their own flagging (example is when you buy royal crystals you get flagged by lost ark system and you get trusted within 72 hours), and no one knows how the system works if you don’t spend money in game, not even them, no one will give you the answer you are looking for if you ask them. It is garbage, inconsistent, I have seen people who bought royal crystals not getting trusted for weeks, months, I have seen people with 11 year old steam accounts with over 100 purchases not getting trusted in lost ark, it is absolute sh!tshow. If they made lost ark trusted status = steam trusted status we wouldn’t have any of these problems.

steam can’t verify your lost ark account/status, they can provide you information that your steam account is not restricted, and that should be enough for lost ark to make your account trusted, but it’s not anymore, because they want you to give them the money.

Amazon just silently changed how the system works, trusted status on steam is not enough anymore, you have to spend money in the game, amazon live chat support told me that yesterday.

Fine. I understand, I can live with that. But when my opinion is asked, I feel obliged to provide as it is, especially since, defending this game strongly, I am pressured to be honest, transparent and consistent. If I’m not like that in everyone’s eyes, my arguments are weightless.

I also understand they should know better than us, since they have all the data to come to their decisions, and I’ve been trying to warn people about that fact.

But in the end, with all these people complaining all the time, having even a few users “scammed” for 10$ without having access to crucial in-game features, I mean you gotta know there is absolutely no data which can justify such a decision.

Surely it’s obvious that image, reputation is at stake here. That’s not something you can easily fix once you lose it. There are psychological manipulations which can sometimes work, but there’s only a few of those which haven’t been used in this very game already xD

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Hi, I remember talking to you yesterday about new steam accounts. Just to give you an update, since my thread was closed, my friend bought around 70$ worth of royal crystals yesterday, so he can south vern powerpass his character. He cannot use the auction house or trade yet, but there was a timer of 3 days for him in a pop up, due to his character being just recently powerpassed, and they are “waiting for the payment to finish”, I assume to counter people who refund/chargeback?

I guess 3 days for him is better than having to wait for months(for not even a guarentee), but will update you whether he actually can use it after 3 days or if its false.

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yeah thanks, the 3 day lock up is also annoying, I think it was also invented to combat the bots if I am not mistaken. If he doesn’t get trusted after 3 days this will become a real sh!tshow :joy:

Very accurate.

It was stated that it is a fraud prevention method. Strange that no other game that exists does this to “combat fraud”. Obviously it’s a company issue, not a game or fraud issue.

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can you read this few messages? I am losing braincells by this guy, you seem smart about this stuff.
So why no communication about Bots from AGS? - General Discussion / General Discussion - Lost Ark Forums (playlostark.com)

I can confirm that neither amazon or smilegate is never ever going to see my money, and all it took was 2 week of playing theyr game and seeing how they’re managing it lmao

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Imagine coming to another thread to ask for help, LMFAO

Poor thing.

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Thats good for you, now you can use your money on important things instead of video games.

@GodLoli
@chaudz

From what I read you’re both on a pointless rant. Both Lost Ark and WoW are Free to Play based on the majority of definitions I’ve found. You can progress the entirety of Lost Ark’s story for free with certain limitations which makes it free to play and you can play WoW’'s base game entirely for free indefinitely with certain limitations which also makes it free to play.

The difference between the two is that WoW markets it’s free to play content as a free trial so people are not deluded into thinking the entire game and it’s content is free while Amazon Games Studio markets Lost Ark as “free to play” which allows the idea of the entirety of the content being accessible while purchases are available to who decide to make them.

It’s just a difference of marketing and perspective. Continuing to argue on the subject is a waste of time for everyone and makes you both seem like you have difficulty understanding simple things.

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that’s my dad.
But do you agree that game is not free to play if you can’t use basic features like market without paying?

No, you can’t progress though the last expansion for free in WOW. (not to mention the limitations you have on the free trial you can’t ad friends, make parties, etc)

In lost ark you can progress and play every content FOR FREE.

In my definition it’s not (as wow is free to try and not free to play in my pov), but well, i guess it is for the rest of the world, there’s a game called Dofus that’s considered free to play even tho u can’t get out of the first city if you’re not paying so i guess everything is possible x)

By definition WOW is B2P/P2P and Lost ark is F2P

not in a realistic scenario, however that’s not the point, the point of whole arguing is that you said lost ark free to play game where I said it’s not free to play when you can’t use basic features without paying with the real money