No - you still get gold at 1415. As soon as you get access to the next larger source of gold, you lose the oldest small one.
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No worries, we can’t do Oreha anymore but Valtan gives more gold so no problem. The only downside is getting good and completing the raid lol
not from orehas well, no. once you hit 1415, your main sources of gold are weekly Argos bus and valtan normal
was worried about pugging valtan before… pressure is on now!!! lol
Don’t worry - it’ll be ok 
I am calm … i have alts … but this still is bad knowing i spent 3 hours for Argos P1 today on an alt with pugs … thats how bad Argos still is. I cant imagine Valtan first month for pugs.
I mean, i do it on 3 alt in 10 mins every week with pugs. Argos P1 is just so easy. If you spend that much time on it, pugs won’t be the problem on Valtan to be honest with you.
Hmm, and here i was thinking " that" change was added same time Vyakis came as raid not Valtan. hmmm
It’s funny how we white knights keep saying “its been like that in every other region”.
But have those “other regions” been missing 2 out of 4 raids that brings in materials = gold?
I don’t think so 
The OP has a point.
If you are just above 1415 but for whatever reason cannot get into a Valtan group, you’re in a deadzone of gold generation.
“Just deal with it” is ignoring the fact that theres a flaw in the design here.
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@Roxx Can we get some insight over this change? cause this is TERRIBLE, this isnt how the game works, the game works on a 3 weekly gold income basis, oreha+argos+valtan were supposed to be our 3 weekly gold income and when vykas hits you replace oreha with vykas and you get argos+valtan+vykas, we werent supposed to lose oreha gold before vykas hits, we are supposed to lose oreha gold AFTER VYKAS, please adress this if its a mistake, if its intended, then its an awful change.
Thing is its not, these “white knights” are legit clueless af and missinformed and should keep their mouth shut, you dont lose oreha gold before vykas hits, thats how its always been, they are just dumb and pretend to be smart.
Any source that the change was supposed to happen after vykas? The forums are a massive platform of misinformation so I want to make sure.
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When i dont clear argos my weekly income shrinks to 27k basic. Oh no:(.
Imagine 3 months into the game people still have Gold problems.
You can ask any Korean streamer, saintone even has a vod talking about gold post Valtan when he literally says you lose nothing with valtan cause you lose oreha gold after vykas, not before.
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Just because you yourself do not get gold from Oreha hard does not make Oreha hard useless. Many people in other regions still run Oreha hard above 1415 to bus for gold.
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Maybe not everyone wants to bus. Wasnt there even a post around with someone getting banned for busing ? Why risk it.
You missed the part, where amazon bans you if someone raports you for " bus" kekw.
System and support are so discconected.
You are wrong and looking at old information.
This was logged back in December 2021. Oreha gold was not accessible pass 1415 from the January 2022 patch
edit: January patch was the Argos gold change, Oreha gold was must older than that per the June 2021 Russian client