So for exampel if a player done the raid only once now next id wants to go again but its not 100% familiar with the mechs. but stil joined a “reclear” group.
and then after 1 wipe becous the play have not much exp. is " toxic "? holy jesus
THIS is bs.
and then u wiped u vote to lobby kick the player to search someone with “reclear exp”
THIS is " Toxic ".
And what is wrong joing a reclear group. If somehow people manage to see 1 player have clearly no EXP. Is it so hard to explain for 10sek 1 mech? No? Vote to lobby and kick?
I have completed Vykas a lot of times, but sometimes I might mess up an easy mechanic because either I am distracted on Discord, tired, bad run, etc and I have seen a lot of groups quitting because of 1 mistake or 2 mistakes (of the same party ex., party 1 messed up twice but different players). They leave mad saying that it was a reclear party and that ppl need to learn the mechs. I hope OP is not this type of person and is legit complaining about ppl who doesn’t know mechs and not just one or 2 mistakes when they clearly know how to do it.
What fun? U think i cry all day if i am on a group raiding and if some one is dieng on a mech in a reclear group and after that person says im not so much experienced??
Im help the people , i have the patience. There was one a time i need to kick someone becous that player didnt talk failed all the time and there was no improvement becous he didint answear.
But i never kick a player if he talks and take the advice.
But calling it toxic to a community that gatekeep for excampel vykas hm full relic 5x3 etc. even with vykas succubus titel and all that crap i dont care.
I build my group yes it says reclear in the titel but if i get one player that somehow manage to come in without exp i dont kick him.
so please dont talk me like “yea reclear bla bla oh no someone joined its toxic” cmon u can better.
but the topic here for OP says joining a group that u dont have kill exp just to sneak in and calling is toxic is stupid lol
So in the future i can call everything toxic or what? Is this what some people going forward?
I love those clown reclear premade groups that require title (usually one of them has it or none) which I don’t have but I have 5 pieces so I get accepted. Then I witness the biggest wipefests of the week, it goes both ways
The analogy you make here is not fair. When I’m joining “reclear have title” groups I expect them to perform just like they are expecting from me to perform no matter what the raid is. That’s why the strict requirement in the first place.
Well they don’t so it goes both ways.
Finally if you Pug enough there is no chance you didn’t encounter such groups with insane requirements only to see them failing.
Because Kakul is the latest raid. Same thing happened when Valtan was the latest raid and Argos the one before. How people and “reclear” operate is the same though in any case and it will be the same everytime a new raid comes.
Idk about the 4 hours you saying. It takes me max 1:30-2 hours to clean Clown with half decent pugs and I have way less than 10 times clears.
There are no practice parties. High gear players only drive buses and low levels either pay for the bus or reroll hoping for a carry.
If I could at least have my practice lobby open while I do other things in the game and the people joining would be able to do the same that may fill up eventually, but in this game you are only allowed to do one thing at a time, so what am I supposed to do for the 5h it might take to fill up?
In the culture that exists of course people are going to chance it by joining any party that might accept them. Law of large numbers. You cannot fix players, you can only fix the system. The game needs to be more relaxed both when it comes to gear level and retries.
This is very true but I think the main reason of this happening is because this version is accelerated. When we finally and if catch up and have long content droughts these learning groups will boom. Now everyone is in rush to reach what they watch on streams and korea
