here’s the logic of people arguing against pheons
literally proves pheons is just a minor hinderance to their gameplay with that many alts but they want it gone because they can’t keep gambling stones or gearing more alts for infinite gold.
Run out of pheons? Just buy more pheons, easy W.
Yup early adopters become whales and snowball so hard that the economy gets destroyed for any new players.
Then come on here and try to act like they know what it’s like to be a new player in these conditions lmao
The economy is designed to inflate to the point where new players will not be able to play the game.
Blue crystals and pheons inflating to infinity lets go. We need market cap.
Silly, don’t you know if you spend 40 hours a week grinding “content” you will be able to afford everything you’re “crying” over? sheesh, you guys haven’t even tried sinking 14 hours a day into the game to get good have you?
Work smarter not harder, yall just mad cause you play yourselves. Don’t lump everyone into your leaky boat. You can be new, and not need 14 hours a day to catch up.
I literally just baited a homie into this clown fiesta a week ago, forced him to do shit on his own or at most I assisted him with an equivalently geared boi to not trivialize his progression. (Mostly because I thought it’d be super funny to watch him get folded by yoho, etc.) Didn’t juice him because I’ve learned in the past that doing so would just hasten his burnout and void any understanding to the value of what he’s obtained, similar to playing any game with gameshark the first round, you’re op for a minute, then get bored. We’re barely at the 2 week mark and he’s almost got his purify, 1445, and just cleared his first valt hm / vyk nm yesterday. With 4x3+2 cause I showed him an engraving calculator and told him how to play the game within the game. He is a dirty whale because he spent like 20usd on a booba skin.
The mental gymnastics here is unreal.
LOL
Thanks for the laugh.
The reals do what they want, the rest do what they can. It is what it is.
I play 14 hours a day and can afford maybe 1 legendary book after a month and a half.
Sweet he is very fortunate to have had a mentor such as yourself to teach him the tricks
Having pheon cost for buying stones which is RNG is just pure stupidity.
Actually it’s:
We do things like this with IRL money, to show support for a game we play. Because if we play it, we should support it.
But the game wants more from us. It wants pheons, which are directly tied to the cash shop. The game even taxes us on gear we find on one alt, when we send it to another one of our alts. Why? Why aren’t we already considered a good customer? Why force more? Is it right? Is it ethical? Is it even moral?
The debate has never been whether or not the game gives periodic pheons. It shouldn’t matter if s player has 30k gold, or 3k gold or 300 gold. If you support the game, but just haven’t supported in the form of pheons, you should not be punished, period. That’s not a moral business practice.
People on these forums can try and spin the issue here any way they want. We’ve heard things like entitled, freeloaders and addicts. But that’s not the real issue. The issue is principals and whether or not people should support a system that feels morally and ethically offensive.
There’s nothing wrong with a paying customer questioning the integrity of a service they paid for.
Personally, I think I would stop complaining about pheons if every cash shop purchases I made came with a handful of pheons. Spend IRL 20 bucks on a skin, here is 20 pheons. Spend 10 bucks on aura, here’s 10 pheons. Spend 5 bucks on RC → BC, here’s 5 pheons.
That way, I am not punished for supporting the game, simply because I bought something other than pheons. And of course I’m talking only cash shop purchases with IRL money. No bonus if you convert gold to BC to purchase things. Think of it as a loyalty perk. A way fro the company to say, “thanks for your business”.
if you feel that they are forcing you or that is unethical or that it’s not morally right why not walk away and not support this type of practice?
you chose to continue to play this game for 9 months and spend money on it.
you chose to make 6+ alts which then made pheons a massive problem to yourself.
is it not right to say that if you created the problem for yourself that you should solve it yourself?
instead
take some responsibility.
it’s like being a parent.
can you afford to feed 1 child? 2? 3? 4? 5? 6? 7?
if you can’t afford that many alts…why make that many and make pheons a problem for yourself?
is that a good analogy to help you understand what you did to yourself?
Make all items bound after you purchase from AH and remove pheons. That is the best system to prevent resell.
But wait, how will they make $$$ when you try 7/7 9/7 stones ?
100 pheons price = 850 Crystals. You need 30 EUR if you buy with cash because with 20 euro you buy only 800 crystals. You see what they did there ? (that is a red flag)
EDIT:
I forgot to mention the restriction to place items in the Roster Storage (another red flag).
The Pheon system is there to milk money not to prevent anything. The only thing it prevents it’s us playing the game unless we pay $$$.
Any game that has a second currency is there to milk money. Lost Ark has 
3 (Gold, Royal Crystal, Blue Crystal) 
Only problem is you could put 900hrs in like I have and not get a single drop worth anything…and if you do gear waiting for drops then people with your same thought process talks shit about how people are running Argos in rainbow…2x3,3x3 etc and won’t let them join. To me idc I just buy the pheons because the game hasn’t once in 950hrs and 9 characters 1400+ dropped a single accessory I can use on that character…I need pheons to trade across classes. Pheons are fucking dumb.
You are avoiding the question, repackaging it and presenting a new one.
Your analogy is bad.
A more appropriate analogy would be I decide to buy a Jeep Grand Cherokee with the 3rd row seat. You know for all those kids 
But I find out that the Jeep has this feature, everytime I shut the car off, the 3rd row seat folds down and you can’t open it again, until you insert a special Chrysler coin in. So everytime I want to use it, I pop the coin in and each time I shut the car off, the seat folds down. Rinse and repeat.
Now these Chrysler coins can only be purchased through Chrysler and even though I pay my monthly car payment, pay extra even and get the enhanced warranty and shop package, I STILL have to buy those coins to use the 3rd seat.
And the dealerships argument, well once you pay to open it, it’s not really a big deal. It will stay open for 2, 4, 8 even a 16 hour car ride. You only have to pay the next time you expect to use it and it’s not our fault you have too many kids and need to use the 3rd seat…
Doesn’t that sound ridiculous?? That’s exactly how pheons feel.
But I’m sure most people will miss the point 
I’m sorry but it’s extremely obvious that pheons bring nothing of value to the player.
If you sustain pheons as a player, it’s only out of spite that other people will reach your farmed ilvl and gear without effort and you can’t stand out any more, therefore, out of arrogance.
what???
are you serious?
people seem to forget that to enjoy all endgame content right now…
all you need is one character 1430-1460 that’s it…yup…that’s it.
at 1430 you can do argos/valtan/vykas/ and clown practice if you only care about the raids.
at 1460 you get to do kungelanium if you really really wanted to enjoy “everything” currently in the game right now.
so…you don’t have to make more alts you chose to.
So following that line of reasoning.
If you only need one character to do all endgame content…
why do you make more alts and make pheons a problem for yourself?
The only arguement would be because you want to continue to enjoy yourself right?
that’s why people make more alts no? to prolong the enjoyment…
Let’s take twitchcon as an example.
it costs money to go to twitchcon…
you have to buy a ticket.
you can choose 1 day 2 days or 3 days with varying prices.
you don’t have to go to twitchcon…you can “enjoy” something yourself (one character)
but you want to enjoy something more so you choose to go to twitchcon and pay the ticket for one day.(one alt)
and then you realize…twitchcon is really fun. so now you want to buy the 2nd day (second alt)
now after enjoying the second day so much you decide you want to enjoy twitchcon even more. so you buy the 3rd day (third alt)
you see where I am going with this?
You don’t have to go to twitchcon. ( you don’t have to make more alts)
since you can enjoy things yourself. (one character)
That’s a terrible analogy…because like i listed above…you don’t have to make more alts lmao
you’re making an extreme example of a jeep with a car seat with a feature that was FORCED upon you…
you aren’t “FORCED” to make more alts … you understand that right?
PLEASE tell me you understand you aren’t forced to spend in the game or forced to make more alts that then require more pheons…or forced to play the game you think is unethical, or morally wrong.
YOU CHOOSE TO…willingly made the decision…no one forced you…
so why can’t you just take responsibility for not being able to afford to utilize multiple alts …the problem you created for yourself?
instead you continue to make excuses for the problems you caused yourself because you want more enjoyment out of the game and then blame the company when the problems pile up…
Do you HAVE to make more alts when you can have ONE character 1430-1460 and enjoy ALL content? no.
do you HAVE to move your accessories to your alt because it would lock you out of accessing endgame content on your account on all characters if you didn’t? no…
you chose to make more alts to “enjoy” the game more… if you want to enjoy something more like a meal at mcdonalds, a waterpark, disneyland, a concert…you pay for it…except in lost ark a free to play game…all it takes is your time and you don’t have to spend a dime because you can utilize resources from the ones who do want to spend.
I just can’t understand why you can’t understand this and accept responsibility.
Have you ever heard of this expression before?
“It is better to have people think you are a fool, than it is to open your mouth and remove all doubt.”
please stay on topic i’ll quote you.
so you continue to ignore the facts that YOU choose to create more alts when you can enjoy the entire game with ONE character
You chose to play the game you call “unethical and immoral”. and support it
and best of all
you take NO responsibility for ANY problems you created for yourself as a grown adult.
claps
if this word does not define you…i do not know a better word that could.
You see how it’s all “I this” and “I that”?
you literally think the world revolve around you and that you are “special” for being a paying customer.
You are so blind to your entitlement you make up excuses for it.
Please open your eyes.
One character doesn’t change the fact that game charges charges you for normal game functions, even if you paid.
I don’t support pheons. Not a little, not at all. Stated it before, go back and read.
I didn’t creat any problems. I played a game, found it fun, decided to support the company, made purchases and then discovered shady practices. Nice gaslighting…
I used I genius, because I can’t speak for everyone. I can however speak about my experiences. But I’m sure I’m not alone, but I’m not so arrogant to speak of behalf of others.
And you are so dense you can’t see the forest from the tree.
Said the tool with it’s ears closed, on not one account, but two. What happened to your other account?
