Permanently missable seeds and achievements: Why?

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For me the more concerning aspect of limited tries before forever locked out isn’t mokoko seeds.

Maybe biased assumption but mokoko in this secret dungeon is straight forward and easy. Not like others with weird mechanics like dungeons where you need to kill every single bat plus slime, can’t kill any wrong mobs while only killing certain ones, etc.

From 10 tickets I just don’t see 99.9% of players missing mokoko unless not interested in hunting mokoko. The achievements, however, I can totally see players missing on, especially hidden one that doesn’t show on list to let you know it is missable

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Updated the post. Thanks for the elaboration!

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Hello i used all the ticket and didnt pay attention there was mokoko in :X now i feel like i m fucked , searching an issue to go back in and getting what i missed …

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I agree with OP 100%. Permanently missable items are a pet peeve of mine in any game, let alone an MMO built around having tons of collectibles. Considering every other collectible in the game isn’t missable (as far as I know) this seems like an oversight. What I want to know is why hasn’t it been fixed? Surely when the content was released in KR people noticed this issue and brought it to the devs’ attention.

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No one is preventing you from deleting a toon and doing it again.

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I do think it needs to be addressed, but in terms of just getting the available rewards. There is a total of 1210 mokoko seeds to collect with the highest reward being given out at 1200 right? I honestly dont remember since i switched my focus to world tree leaves.

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Wow, we’re really scrapping the bottom of the “Thread Topic” barrel here. Really shows how shallow a game is when all you see are topics about honing, raids, classes, skins, and…then this.

Oh and I can’t forget bots. Lots of those threads too lol.

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This is genuinely bad design for an MMO. Hand waving the importance of mokokos doesn’t excuse it.

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Do you understand how rapport rewards work? Deleting char won’t matter - rapport doesn’t reset with new char, it is account wide.

Once all tickets earned from rapport are used, that is it, for entire roster.

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Exactly, completion should not be permanently ruined for a person for no reason

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Which one is the hidden one by the way? I’m curious about it.

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Thanks. I’ll make sure not to miss it. (I really don’t like permanently missable content like this.)

I take it you can’t invite anyone to do the secret lab in a party, since that would be a workaround?

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You mean this Island?

I used this and only went there for the mokoko seeds… Then when I had them all, I did the quest.

It really is a good website for all kinds of reasons, but mokoko seeds are hard to find a lot of times without a guide.

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Already got them all before even creating the post. Reading a guide outside of the game still does not explain why there is permanently missable core content. That’s the purpose of this thread, to ask why this is even something players should have to be concerned about.

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Works like cube, br, etc. : everybody needs a ticket to enter, no “taxi’ing”.

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It took me a while to realize that there were things I was missing…

I foolishly thought that I could just play the game, like any other game, and be able to do all the content without having to go to a website to look things up.

I see people saying things like ‘do some research’ in a cocky, smug way… I would like to say Why? Why should you need to go do some research for a game? The game should be self-explanatory like all other games.

I had already reached level 50, on my own, with no help from a web page or anyone telling me how… just me with my little pixel legs… before I realized that I had missed a LOT.

I really don’t know why Lost Ark is this way, why you have to do ‘Research’…

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Yeah, that’s what I figured you meant. Bad design decision on their part.

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Yes, it’s true. The only source of tickets is Mari’s rapport, and rapport is not repeatable. There’s nothing hypothetical in that.

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If you cared enough about completion you would have been more careful, personally I like these little things that can be permanently unavailable if you dont do things right.
Makes everything more exciting in general, I just wish there was more of it.