Petition For DPS Meter

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It was a petty move, lol. got reported by another player for essentially doing nothing.

396

It is petty for sure but who’s really at fault here? The guy that doesn’t like dps meters or the person that using something thats against ToS then shows a screenshot of themselves using it?

397

It is against ToS, all I was saying is that it was petty lol. Glad we’re on the same page. I will say this extra bit. Petty behavior is actually toxic, it’s passive aggressive in nature. Using a DPS meter is taking a known risk of being punished, which is fair, but I do think the angle that player who use/want DPS meters are by nature inflammatory or assholes or toxic is far from the truth. If anything I think there are more people who are so closed minded and vehemently against that are truly toxic.

398

Hey, might as well start a petition to allow use of bots and RMT too. Since you guys are petitioning for something that’s against the ToS and something that the Director said is clearly bannable.

399

Thank you , i wish people would respect the decisions it’s been told many times why not

400

It’s not the same, I equate using a DPS meter similar to someone who played in RU/KR but having not lived there. To play Lost Ark KR you essentially engage in creating fraudulent identities (fake SSN). People do not call for those bans. DPS meter doesnt hurt players. FF14 logic need not apply here. Idk what it is about that game or it’s players but there seems to be a lot of unresolved trauma. Therapy boys.

401

I feel like the fact that DPS meters make for a toxic game is just being ignored here. If people were just playing the game to play the game, DPS meters would be great! But if you just spend a little time on this forum, you can see that the higher level player base is extremely toxic and hostile. There are almost no threads about the actual game, just endless threads of people raging. If people’s default was being chill and kind, I am sure that a DPS meter would already be in the game.

402

Deskaluda is pugged. Not even HM Valtan asks for 1460 ilvl. Exaggerating isn’t helping the discussion.

403

I understand that concern sure but it isn’t a logical take because players who are supposedly most at risk to this scrutiny are not vocal about the existing gatekeeping. Why turn a blind eye to gatekeeping that is much harsher and a lot less accurate? Also dps meters are already circulating. Have you noticed explicit toxicity lately in game or on reddit/forums belittling undergeared players? I haven’t. If you have please cite them.

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404

I don’t have a reddit, but my experience with toxic people is specifically in game lol

405

That makes complete sense. One hurts the players and the other help the players get better but hey lets just keep that mind set and let all the hacks stay in game too.

406

It doesn’t matter if it’s different or in your opinion it doesn’t hurt players. It’s really plain simple facts:

DPS Meter:

  • Against TOS
  • Bannable

Bots:

  • Against TOS
  • Bannable

RMT:

  • Against TOS
  • Bannable

I don’t need to spell it out at all. It’s really simple.

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407

Well again I never said it isn’t against ToS, I don’t know why you’re bringing that up. Yes it is, people who use them are at risk sure. But the argument is about toxicity DPS meters breed. Which… where’s the evidence for that? If anything we have evidence of the reciprocal. Senseless gatekeeping and an over emphasis on ilvl, things dps meters for this game resoundingly disprove, which help the f2p players case for being able to engage in content.

408

I don’t think in this scenario its toxic. if you’re dumb enough to post something that is against ToS to the public and expect to not get banned then that’s dumb

409

Just imagine people that play the game the most want a tool to help better themselves and their group.

A blanket statement saying that they are all toxic is far from the truth. I think you are toxic for falsely accusing other people for their toxicity.

A DPS meter isn’t just dps numbers its damage take, damage done, healing taken, healing done, cd’s used, buff/debuff uptime. It tracks all of these and gives you a time line of when each occurs. This gives the player information on what they are struggling with and what they need to improve on and how.

Toxicity will always be in competetive games and MMOs its just how people are saying a DPS meter will make it more toxic when we already have an MVP screen is not the best argument here. Its a tool we can use to help us.

410

they are so quick to delete post. You are all being taken advantage of period.

411

Are you saying that I am lying about my in-game experience?

412

What did they delete?

413

you tell me CM. you tell me

414

Maybe I should use a more relatable example if your argument is to help F2P players.

Since you said it’s “use at your own risk situation” but kind of acceptable since it helps F2P players. Then ok, let’s petition to legalize Chaos Dungeon bots.

F2P players can:

  • Farm free mats
  • Allow them to catch up in ilevels
  • Therefore allow them to engage in content
  • Infinite mats can’t be sold on market anymore

What do you say? Good for F2P right?