No I am not, I know how to get everything you listed maybe I will get it maybe buy it in 5-6 weeks 
there is no rush, Main character is Brelshaza ready just waiting. Doubt if there is sense to push more than + 21 items. You have problem cuz u want earn as much gold to do everything in 1 day but you cant. Trust me you will never be able to do it in this game as f2p, you must buy gold for real money but I suggest to learn having more patience.
Yeah no, more like 5-6 months, or much longer (unless youâre playing 6 of the same class or cutting corners), , and by that time the content will be even further past that.
But anyways, youâre moving the goalposts and changing the topic.
I said people donât clear inferno more than once because itâs a waste of money, you said itâs not wasting money because thereâs nothing to save money for, I pointed out progression costs a bunch, you said you recently spent hundreds of thousands on progression and then also said youâre basically nowhere near done and proved my point that progression is very costly so people donât want to spend money they donât need to on inferno after clearing it.
potions and other stuff almost free throw stronghold just use stronghold automatic gathering and craft all u needed itâs like purple healpotion around 3-4 gold each (i dont remember exactly but it was dirt cheap when i did math), also this method doesnt consume ur time u just press few buttons and itâs done
There is nothing like wasting money in video games for me. Why you even consider if something is gold waste or not gold waste this gold are pixels you play for fun. Nobody cares if u will be a billionaire or poor guy in video game. You will have everything sooner or later.
Cool story, too bad itâs not true.
You literally already talked about how youâre playing the game efficiently, which obviously shows you care about managing your resources and not wasting them, so you can progress your characters.
Keep lying if you want to I guess though.
Let me know how much you continue waste on consumables in inferno after you have the deathless title.
I wasted more than 100 pots, and many other stuffs till now, sadly have not finished it, with no deaths 
Due to holidays we cant organize group for now maybe after vacations in September we will try again. But inferno is fun, about items I used I dont really care those numbers I mentioned are ofc approximate. BTW what do you mean by wasting resources ? If they are only to being used so if I use them I am not wasting, right? EDIT See ppl like you will never communicate with ppl like me for me Lost Ark and any other game is just another stupid game to kill my free time, for me there is no something like gold waste, item waste if I have I use them if no then I dont, simple
100% support this. Adding Battle Items to the Book of Coordination would be fantastic QoL for Inferno.
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No it ainât lmao.
having gold isnât dedication nor is it skill.
Thankfully they will never change that. You oh so hardcore raiders keep buying my potions. Cheers.
I think they should change it so whenever you use a potion you use the potion of the next member in your group with group 1 position 4 stealing of group 2 position 1 and so on. That would be fun 
Edit: And should your target have reached the limit or have non, you steal a random one. 
Iâll say it one more time since you apparently have trouble understanding something simple Iâve repeated multiple times.
After you get the deathless title, if you keep doing inferno, you are wasting gold, because you will get nothing out of it.
I havent done hell mode yet because i donât want to waste pots for no financial compensation. I would definitely do it if they gave pots for the run.
Sure, why not. It would certainly reduce a lot of stress and tension around Inferno.
why do u care about how other ppl spend their time ? just spend YOUR time the way u want.
thats right, the reward from helltan is a big internet pp, it not free tho. u need to pay for it, using your time and gold(consumables). If u cant do what other ppl do that just means u dont have that big of a pp yet.
most likely the majority of hell mode comunity agrees that hell modes should not be free of cost as to evade clowns. if u spend gold u r not taking prog lightly and that makes ppl try to play their best (which is the point of hell mode)
it would not make it pug friendly⌠to be pug friendly u need to make it easier enough that a 60% dmg uptime can handle it but hellmode is like 90%+ uptime dmg, if u have not mastered the content there is no amount of consumables that will save your ass.
The reason your gems + engravings and stats r for free r NOT to make hell mode more accessible, instead is a way to make SURE everyone is equalized while also providing some space for âbuild criativityâ.
i dont think it would make things less toxic as the major problems with hellmode r not the consumables but that u need 8 players doing their best on the same run.
last but not least, hell modes r not that expensive.
i have deathless helltan and a normal clear of hell vykas.
my guess is that my helltan normal clear costed me less than 5k gold in consumables and less than 16hs of prog.
my helltan deathless costed less than 15k gold in consumables(fucking wolf eating my ass) and around 40hs of prog
my normal clear of vykas costed me around 25k in consumables and less than 70 hours of prog. ( we have 300ping so i think we where below avg with 70hs of prog for normal clear)
this is just estimated since most of my consumables where not bought, i just had already acumulated some boxes and completed using my life skills mats to make potions and other stuff. i only bought androphine potions with gold.
the reason u dont have gold for hell mode is prob because u r f2p and is expending most of your income upgrading chars. if u stop honing for 3 weeks im sure u can get a lot of gold to use in hell mode.
sorry for long post or if i sounded toxic, all the best.
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I think all the people attacking me over a legitimately good idea have proven my point. Most have admitted to paying 5-15 k worth of consumables to clear inferno on valtan. Also, overwhelmingly they all seem to feel they are superior to other players for this accomplishment because they spent the gold and not because of their skill.
I will admit they are skilled, but the potions they spent have nothing to do with the accomplishment. It is just a barrier that disincentives people to try as it currently stands.
If spending gold on potions for a title makes you feel good, more power to you. I would rather save up for legendary engravings, tripods, honing alts and such. Iâm not sitting on a huge pile of gold and I use my free potions on my main and my alts. If I ever get a huge surplus I may try, but it sounds like most people wont repeat it once they cleared it once. Once again showing why the change would be good for the community.
I cleared hard vykas at launch with an 8 man group at 1460-1470, it took us 8 hours total.
Inferno im sure is doable but Im not going to do it as it currently stands and I feel many people feel the same way.
Normally I hate the feeling of latex robber. But if I have to choose one Iâll go with Trojan. I hope this makes you feel better. 
Then perhaps you lack dedication for hell mode. Itâs just ingame gold or even just free accumulated chests. If you canât spare that, then maybe itâs not the correct time for you to attempt something that is just for bragging rights.
You think this is a good idea but it is not. Not like it wasnât proposed in other regions either.
Hellmode is prestige content and you are not entitled to free consumables just because you canât afford progression. This game is already super generous in that regard by giving you free reign over stats and engravings. Show me one other mmo that lends you literal BiS just for the sake of clearing the hardest content available.
You only see your own spendings failing to grasp the very fundamental basics on how consumables sinks like hell mode are good, necessary and healthy for the game. Because sure as hell both NM and HM barely make a dent with the metric fucktons of free consumables and battle items shoved down our throat and the very fact that supports can completely trivialize that content to begin with.
Hell mode is fine as is, no changes needed. And luckily none on the horizon either.
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you jealous of the people with inferno challenge title?
spend the same amount of money they did before complaining about it costing too much.
if you donât have money to buy plenty of pots? DONâT TRY
If hell modes are supposed to be challenge modes to test skill, then people shouldnât be able to swipe for consumables and thus have an easier time doing it than others. Proving grounds doesnât let them swipe, so why do this with raids? Make consumables free for hell modes.