Thankfully they will never change that. You oh so hardcore raiders keep buying my potions. Cheers.
I think they should change it so whenever you use a potion you use the potion of the next member in your group with group 1 position 4 stealing of group 2 position 1 and so on. That would be fun 
Edit: And should your target have reached the limit or have non, you steal a random one. 
I’ll say it one more time since you apparently have trouble understanding something simple I’ve repeated multiple times.
After you get the deathless title, if you keep doing inferno, you are wasting gold, because you will get nothing out of it.
I havent done hell mode yet because i don’t want to waste pots for no financial compensation. I would definitely do it if they gave pots for the run.
Sure, why not. It would certainly reduce a lot of stress and tension around Inferno.
why do u care about how other ppl spend their time ? just spend YOUR time the way u want.
thats right, the reward from helltan is a big internet pp, it not free tho. u need to pay for it, using your time and gold(consumables). If u cant do what other ppl do that just means u dont have that big of a pp yet.
most likely the majority of hell mode comunity agrees that hell modes should not be free of cost as to evade clowns. if u spend gold u r not taking prog lightly and that makes ppl try to play their best (which is the point of hell mode)
it would not make it pug friendly… to be pug friendly u need to make it easier enough that a 60% dmg uptime can handle it but hellmode is like 90%+ uptime dmg, if u have not mastered the content there is no amount of consumables that will save your ass.
The reason your gems + engravings and stats r for free r NOT to make hell mode more accessible, instead is a way to make SURE everyone is equalized while also providing some space for ‘build criativity’.
i dont think it would make things less toxic as the major problems with hellmode r not the consumables but that u need 8 players doing their best on the same run.
last but not least, hell modes r not that expensive.
i have deathless helltan and a normal clear of hell vykas.
my guess is that my helltan normal clear costed me less than 5k gold in consumables and less than 16hs of prog.
my helltan deathless costed less than 15k gold in consumables(fucking wolf eating my ass) and around 40hs of prog
my normal clear of vykas costed me around 25k in consumables and less than 70 hours of prog. ( we have 300ping so i think we where below avg with 70hs of prog for normal clear)
this is just estimated since most of my consumables where not bought, i just had already acumulated some boxes and completed using my life skills mats to make potions and other stuff. i only bought androphine potions with gold.
the reason u dont have gold for hell mode is prob because u r f2p and is expending most of your income upgrading chars. if u stop honing for 3 weeks im sure u can get a lot of gold to use in hell mode.
sorry for long post or if i sounded toxic, all the best.
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I think all the people attacking me over a legitimately good idea have proven my point. Most have admitted to paying 5-15 k worth of consumables to clear inferno on valtan. Also, overwhelmingly they all seem to feel they are superior to other players for this accomplishment because they spent the gold and not because of their skill.
I will admit they are skilled, but the potions they spent have nothing to do with the accomplishment. It is just a barrier that disincentives people to try as it currently stands.
If spending gold on potions for a title makes you feel good, more power to you. I would rather save up for legendary engravings, tripods, honing alts and such. I’m not sitting on a huge pile of gold and I use my free potions on my main and my alts. If I ever get a huge surplus I may try, but it sounds like most people wont repeat it once they cleared it once. Once again showing why the change would be good for the community.
I cleared hard vykas at launch with an 8 man group at 1460-1470, it took us 8 hours total.
Inferno im sure is doable but Im not going to do it as it currently stands and I feel many people feel the same way.
Normally I hate the feeling of latex robber. But if I have to choose one I’ll go with Trojan. I hope this makes you feel better. 
Then perhaps you lack dedication for hell mode. It’s just ingame gold or even just free accumulated chests. If you can’t spare that, then maybe it’s not the correct time for you to attempt something that is just for bragging rights.
You think this is a good idea but it is not. Not like it wasn’t proposed in other regions either.
Hellmode is prestige content and you are not entitled to free consumables just because you can’t afford progression. This game is already super generous in that regard by giving you free reign over stats and engravings. Show me one other mmo that lends you literal BiS just for the sake of clearing the hardest content available.
You only see your own spendings failing to grasp the very fundamental basics on how consumables sinks like hell mode are good, necessary and healthy for the game. Because sure as hell both NM and HM barely make a dent with the metric fucktons of free consumables and battle items shoved down our throat and the very fact that supports can completely trivialize that content to begin with.
Hell mode is fine as is, no changes needed. And luckily none on the horizon either.
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you jealous of the people with inferno challenge title?
spend the same amount of money they did before complaining about it costing too much.
if you don’t have money to buy plenty of pots? DON’T TRY
If hell modes are supposed to be challenge modes to test skill, then people shouldn’t be able to swipe for consumables and thus have an easier time doing it than others. Proving grounds doesn’t let them swipe, so why do this with raids? Make consumables free for hell modes.
who told you to grind your consumables at inferno?
if you think it’s not worth spending all those pots, then all you have to do is NOT try the inferno
it can be identified as ‘dedication’ because they are pouring in the gold that they’ve worked for. it’s not a waste when they actually have a goal that they want to achieve.
I mean I’m sticking to my point, wasting gold and consumables is NOT dedication.
Nor does it prove you’re skilled, the entire point of helltan is skill at the fight, so having to waste consumes to do it is stupid. I have no plans to do helltan with needing to spend consumes as I don’t RMT or bus as a support and need my gold to upgrade lmao
Stronghold is the most garbage crafting system i seen in a game, most games you farm the mats, hours grinding than you craft for free…this game adds another step…you gave to PAY gold to craft your items when the grinding supposed to be the payment/investment.
Fun with guildmates is not enough reward? Why you even play games is everything for u is waste of pixels and time ? Maybe you dont know but this gold does not exist same as this consumable 
Just have fun stop saving for nothing items and gold and enjoy game. You will faster quit this game than u use all of your consumables.
Still just lying.
If you think that let it be, I dont care This is only dumb game, gl withbeing troubled by using items that dont exists. Gladly I dont have to play with scrooges like you and we are kicking same players from our guild:sunglasses:
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Basically just sums up your posts, low effort trolling and lies.
This sort of entitlement isn’t something that happens in real life, if you wish for bigger achievements you have to work harder for them.