Pheon cost should change based on price

Games are played for fun as a passtime. This is a stupid comment.

Yeah it’s also not just about flipping but grabing cash and also give more importance to each of your purchases. I don’t think it’ll hurt anyone if the pheon cost were scaling rather that flat fee tbh.

How do you earn pheons anyway? So far I’ve only gotten them off the login rewards…

I can’t believe you bought T3 accs from market, lol. You just wasted your pheons for nothing , you can get 3,3,3 engravings very easy with 0 need of interraction with the market

Good relic accessories are going to last you a long time. Blue crystal has no value as prices in materials have dropped. The only thing blue crystal is useful for now is crystalline aura and pheons.

Login rewards, narunia event gave out 10 weekly

Nothing until 1370 should cost any pheons. Full stop. That would allow people to gear their alts more properly and we wouldn’t see so many people with awful stats or stones.

As it stands I have three alts in T2 around the 1000 mark and I decided I’m just not gonna bother with buying anything from the auction house because out of the 400 pheons I had before buying stuff for my 1370 main I only have 290 left and we all know that relic accessories cost something like 35 pheons later on.

It’s a system that’s apparently been put in place to stop whales from whaling but in reality it stops people from buying things from the auction house pretty much up until 1370, which is when you get some proper gear.

I just love suggestions like these. Might as well suggest buying bot money.

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I mean the Koreans had to make hard mistakes, research and learn.
But i forget how self entitled the west is.

Braindead gamers, can’t think more than one step ahead nowdays.

I don’t want to see changes, stuff like this makes the game actually good for people that like to plan and think ahead a little, and punishing for people that… well don’t think…

ur mentality is, Just hand me full BiS on all my ults.
I can’t think ahead and plan for my specific main.

Stop trying to make this game into something it isn’t and instead start looking at how the KR audience plays it/plans it.

Pheon cost should just not exist at all until 1370+ T3.

Nobody wants to waste them on even half ass gearing T2 alts or T3 1340’s leaving everything but your main basically in absolute trash setup.

The incentive to gear alts is already abysmal, but with the Pheon system it’s just not worth it at all.

This Pheon mechanic is one of the worst game designs I have seen. This is made even worse as you need to spend pheons even for ability stones. In later T3, you will be forced to buy dozens of these in order for you to get a proper combination.

Pheon thingy would’ve been fine if the gold T3 set would be tradable, but as it stands now, it is a major cash grab. You even need Pheons (albeit 1 per purchase) for T2 gear, which is stupid. Not to mention that they are fucking expensive too.

No that would be incredibly broken. It’s not a cash grab because pheons cost blue crystal. Which is accessible for free via currency exchange.

I agree on ability stones though.

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dunno what to comment in here, that intresting conception as i watched countles hours of guides and i planed a loot of shit a head (1395 atm) i just dont think there should be so many systems involving paying real moneys if you fuck up or are just unlucky (tripods, check price for chance increasing powder for it, ability stones cost pheons and are really hard to do perfect) :wink:
Never had to do spreadsheets in wow, gw2, star wars the old republic, the elders scrolls online and allways menaged to get to endgame so i got some genius moments in them, what i cant get in LA, or by your definition they are not an MMOs :slight_smile:
But if you like that then why not :slight_smile:
Would personally preffer to think how to defeat boss instead but for everyone what they like :wink:

No. Play the game and maybe you’ll get what you want eventually.

If you are impatient, use gold and pay the pheon tax.

End of story.

It’s not just to stop whales.

It’s also to force you, the player, to actually play the game to get what you need instead of just staring at the AH all day.

You are supposed to use the AH to help a bit to equip your characters if you have been unlucky for a while. It’s not meant to replace doing the raids regularly to obtain what you need.

You are NOT meant to hit 1340+ on any character and instanly obtain full BiS accessories. They give you the option to pay for it as a convenience, but that’s not what you are supposed to do.

It’s like you people reach T3 and expect it to be similar to T2, yet it is made very clear from the very second you reach ilvl 1100 you will not be able to use the AH to skip obtaining the ilvl 1302 items yourself. You’ll have to play the character and spend some time in the 1100 chaos dungeon.

The pheons system just opens up the option to pay sometimes if you absolutely need something on your character quickly instead of making all items character or roster bound. If you ever manage to convince them to remove the pheons, they will likely make accessories bound when acquired.

T3 is meant to last 1 year+, not a month. The pheons is so far a smart hybdrid system between solo self and full trading liberty which also lets the developpers monetize a bit their product. Neither extremes have been shown to be well implemented in most games so far and it’s nice to see something in-between for a change.

That’s just how people’s perception on the same thing can differ a lot. The way I look at it, rather than providing a hybrid solution or middle ground, the free pheons are simply just baits that have enough amount to get you addicted and enjoy the speed of getting geared using AH. That’s when they make you out of pheon, and you won’t be able to resist but purchase.

It should be easy to tell which one is the case here just by observing ags’s next move. We will move to relic tier next patch, the pheon cost will increase sharply, let’s see if they continuously hand out pheons proportionally. In current situation, ags has been handing out pheons quite generously and accessories don’t cost that much yet, therefore a lot of players might even have excessive free pheons on hand.

Here is what should be done:

Remove Pheons. Remove limitations. Remove energy, remove limits in dungeons and raids.

Work hard on designing skins and effects, and earn money from those.

That’s what should be done.

PoE does it, and they are still in the market. It’s not so hard to be less greedy.

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Sure. Also, let’s wipe all your characters every 3 months.

PoE limits stash space and sells overpriced skins

Its less bad but dogshit nonetheless

Last time i’ve played, you also needed premium tabs to trade through the website. Has that changed?

I havent played PoE since years, but that not even close to Smilegate’s greediness.

Overpriced skins are way better strategy than whatever Smilegate is doing. Being free to play the game as much as you want surely worth it.