Yeah. Sorry mate. Some people get lucky.
I got lucky with my stones (8/7/4 on my 5th try)
BUT Hell, I hit my 500 fail achievement before my main was 1415 with 1 T2 alt.
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I hit 500 before i was even 1405 XD
I did have more then 1 t2 alt though 
cant remember exactly at that point but i think it was 3 chars.
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I honestly think they should be removed on stones completely. Spending a very limited currency on Casino Stones that could be useless feels REALLY BAD. it costs gold too to buy on market which hurts a little but pheons are way limited.
I haven’t gotten a good stone in like a week from drops, so if we can’t slap together something that’s kinda optimal from playing the game why are we being so highly limited on a chance system?
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Yee the rng is a bit much on the stones+ pheon XD I’m even using the stone calc so its not me fuking it up… But ye it feels REALLY BAD indeed getting nothing when you do stones and it fails 1 click.
Then you got the rng of getting gold in the first place XD Only got abit extra this week because I got lucky with a mayhem engraving, otherwise it was just mat gold… So i went a week without honing.
Sad to hear about the stones. The RNG is the name of the game with everything.
Rocks, Cards, Tripods etc
For the 5x3 you need 7/7 stone. There is a image in discord somewhere with other combinations which can get you to 5x3. I got my one just above 100 pheons. Only advise I can give is don’t chase the 9/7 dream you will go down that dark rabbit hole.
Try finding the cheapest way to make your build. Class engravings on Rings and lower quality is okay. Neck should be the cheapest engravings and high quality. This should save lots of money.
If you look up class builds in Korea all builds are played at end game. People are so focused on chasing meta which is why prices are crazy high. Example im a zerk main. I played Mayhem till 1400. But the prices are to much so i switch to BT build. Its way cheaper to get 5x3 and i get to try a different play style.
I can understand why people are drawn to RMT as they get more for there money as appose to the return they get doing it legally. I guess AMG can possibly look it making the crystals attractive for players at a better price point. The biggest problem with RMT is that it screws up the market. People put those insane prices because RMT players will just buy it. Yes there is whales but not that many. If you add Whales + RMT that’s when the market gets screwed for normal players.
These are just some of my points. Ask around in your class discord there are some very smart guys that have figured out best value for money and builds which work for lower end budget.
Just remember not to chase meta as that will change as buffs and nerfs will happen through the game life cycle.
See I’ve already started working on my accessories though, would just cost me more pheon to get the 3 replaced for the new build. (dont think BT build runs raid capt)
The only cheap set up would be masters/raid capt. but then every accessory is an arm and a leg… I picked up the accessories for like 3k a pop when i saw them cheap (with my engraving set up)… cursed doll/mayhem/grudge are all super expensive when it comes to relic accessories. So I went with Masters considering its 1.4k each. instead of 4k (raid) 8k(mayhem) or 17k(grudge)(books).
Anything with mayhem/raid capt/cursed doll is like 5k+ if not more. I was lucky to get them for 3k
Imagine buying masters tenacity book and mayhem before cutting rocks. oh wait nvm you play zerk.
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dont need to buy them to know what engravings you want to go.
Yes BT runs RC well I run it. RC is end game engraving all KR players run it.
Remember you can also just sell your acc on the AH for what you bought it for or even a little more to make gold back and buy again. You might need to stalk AH for 1-2 weeks like I did but in the grand scheme of things its worth it.
Class engravings are not guaranteed in Relic as you know that’s why Mayhem or ZerkTech book is a must. Followed by what other one you get get. You can get Grudge/RC rock for example which should be cheaper. Just go back to the drawing board and work out a plan that works for you.
not spending 160k on just books yo. thats the whole point of this post… 160k is like… 4 weeks for a f2p?
look at the rock im clicking. they are 800-1k lol
Depends on play time + characters you have and what ilvl etc.
Lots of factors. Just save it and buy slowly you can have 3x3 and 2x9 and work on books slowly.
There is no need to insta get 5x3.
You might get lucky with a drop with good stats which can be sold etc.
This is one of the reasons i decide not to do 5x3 and wait for price to go down. I don’t give a shit about new content now.
Agree. I just posted something very similar to this. Many people can get on board with this
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Im already 3x4 and have been for a good month, been not able to get into party finder because no one takes people without grudge… Tried matchmaking the first week and it was absolutely trash so i didnt try that again. Didn’t try party this week but honestly couldnt be asked to search for hours for nothing.
Roster is 1467.5 1385 1370x4 so I can make decent coin but its not crazy… everythings going down so its worth less each day.
Yea i just wanted to get into Valtan XD Might just have to say fuk hardmode and over gear the shit outa normal for party…
well your roster is way better then mine.
if you can’t get into PM then make your own. That’s what I do.
Yea I haven’t tried making my own, probably would be the best shout if im not running grudge XD Just never been a fan of making groups in games. but might just have to give it a go
If i were you i would just push alts to 1415 (with buff). But that just me since i’m so demoralized to gear up my main. You do you man, good luck and hope you have fun.
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Hmmm how can you have such high level main and roster and not know rocks engravings.
2 x Books 2 x Rock and 1 from acc. That’s how you get 5x3
So get grudge from that acc it should be really cheap man.