I’m sure the current contents can all be done with 3x3. There is no doubt about that.
A lot of people that go for 4x3 or 5x3 aren’t doing that because they truly think it’s impossible to clear valtan or vykas if they don’t have them. I, for one, find building my character strong ‘fun’. I like planning my 5x3 engraving setup and work hard to achieve that. And I love seeing the new high damage and clearing contents a bit faster and also appearing in the mvp screen.
I even gear all my 1370 alts with 4x3 / 1x1 setup (All my toons are blue gunlancer, so hence the 1x1 for CR). And yes, this requires legendary engraving books. It is expensive for sure and yes I bought hundreds of pheons with blue crystals, but at the end of the day, i dont care as long as i have fun playing them.
The actual shitshow is people not even bothering to list a lot of non-bis accessories. For a whole week I can’t find a relic with +3 class +3 grudge. I can get away with it since I have 2 books at +12, but people just don’t even try to sell acc like that
Everyday a new post about pheons, why dont u guys just buy some pheons from the shop with your gold?
Why are non bis items so cheap? Because of pheons. The cost of pheons is calculated into the price of those semi useful accessories. If pheons are removed then the price of the accessories will also increase because ppl will start buying them. And then you will have a new higher market price and you will cry again saying its too expensive again to gear alts.
In fact for people who use the free pheons they get in a smart way, they get to get these accessories for cheaper. Is it that complicated to change ur gold to blue crystals and then buy pheons? This is another benefit of pheons btw, it helps the blue crystal market
I think they need to get rid of pheon costs for anything below relic…just WAY too expensive to gear up 1340/1370 and so people are ignoring it and waiting for 1415…and so nothing is selling and it snowballs that eventually you just won’t be able to get those…
There’s no before pheons in our version and our version is nothing like the korean experience.
Nothing about pheons was adjusted to our version, to the botting/rmt problem, to the extremely fast pacing of the game, very fast switching of the tears, very newbiew-unfriendly experience because of said pacing and because they can’t seem to make up their mind with the handouts (they are either way too generous and they make players feel like they have enough or way too stingy with them when they actually needed them), to the ru/kr/jp veterans abusing the market, and especially to the lack of any in-game emphasys on what they are and what they do. No game should require googling something to understand what it does.
There’s no comparison to be made between the two.
Personally I never said everything about the pheons is bad. However there a ton of problems about them and absolutely no adjustments have been made for our version of the game, even when there was a desperate need for at least some tweaks. Most notably when the botting and rmt were in full force. And it’s an unfun system overall.
I’m really curious how many people quit only because of this as-is/as-was shit system. Now it’s too late. SG/AGS might as well shove them up their ***
You have no idea what you’re even talking about. A low ceiling? Cheap items? Just complete nonsense. The former doesn’t mean anything and the latter is just false, as the Pheon costs would be fixed to a degree after which it wouldn’t increase anymore beyond the initial Pheon cost we already have. Hence the accessory prices would stay the same for higher tiered accessories, while it would also mean that prices for budget accessories would increase because there would be more demand for them, which would still mean that it’d still be cheaper to buy them because the Pheon costs wouldn’t be insane
Right now the only way you can sell budget accessories is to put them on the market for 19 gold and wait until someone dumb enough comes along and buys it off you, without any proper knowledge of the Pheon costs. Which is not a reliable or consistent market at all, hence there’s a fundamental problem that needs a solution. And the solution is very simple: Price based Pheon costs
This isn’t realistic and would result in an overly complicated system. Tying blue crystal price fluctuation to market demand price fluctuation is a bad idea overall.
And nobody wants to pay 100 pheons for an expensive bis accessory. While you might not be suggesting that, we need to keep in mind companies are greedy so this is their version of your suggestion
However, I think it’s reasonable that the pheon price on legendary items should be lowered once the relic sets have been introduced on the market. Same for ancient vs relic items. As a baseline. I get the high end items, but why do we really need this for legendaries at this point. And tier 2 and purple accessories shouldn’t cost pheons at all. Like come on it’s not like a lot of pheons are getting used for that, 99% of people know not to do that. So it’s just a gate at this point. Just a forced “play your shitty alt the shitty way”.
The dumbest thing possible is the fact that selling tier 2 legendary stones is more profitable then tier 3 ones. This is how backwards the current system is.
Blue crystals don’t cost Pheons. It’s not a complicated system either.
And nobody would make it this way. There’s obviously a minimum and a maximum cost of Pheons
The rest: Nah. For the other qualities it doesn’t really matter as their Pheon costs are already much lower than Relics and above. Obviously you could just copypaste the Pheon cost increments and steps over to other qualities too, with their maximum step being the current Pheon cost of the accessories, which is probably what they should do. It’s just that it’s a much more irrelevant issue really
Pls stop complaining about extra 5k gold for 100 pheons. They will never remove pheons its only way to give AGS and SGs oportunity to sell gold for real money and not causing any inflation. If u dont have gold for pheons u play this game wrong or u have to low lvl and u should not worry about that for now or u waste gold and buy out honing materials.
The same flow of pheons must be kept for any changes to happen to the system. Otherwise SG won’t want to do anything. For examples for relics the same average of 25 pheons must be kept. If low-end items get a insignificant pheon cost, high-end must proportionally increase in price. And because there are more low-end items generally available the discrepancy between them is only going to grow.
When I said it isn’t realistic, I meant expecting this to actually happen in the same way you are probably imagining.
Also it doesn’t matter that blue crystals don’t cost pheons, as long as pheons cost blue crystals. When you dynamically adjust the price of items on the market based solely on the price of blue crystals you completely make it dependant on whales (this is what pheon scaling based on gold price means - pheons will dictate the gold cost, not the other way around). At least with a fixed cost everyone involved knows what to expect.
It’s never going to happen. Some would say because it’s a bad system, while others seem to tolerate even bad systems as long as they can deal with them or are satisfied with calling others bad at the game for having a problem with it.
After 5 months of never-ending complaints about it we still can’t agree it’s shit? Or maybe everyone is just stupid and crazy and whiny and whatever.
