I have to agree, pheons are one of the dumbest things i have seen.
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@Roxx we need an immediate change to pheons before this game dies bc of it. i haven’t sold a quality piece of relic gear in over 3 weeks.
crystal prices are ridiculously high. rmt bans. argos busses are now risk of bans due to rmt gold. we don’t have the gold we need to support them. how can we enjoy playing this game on our alts when guardian and legion raids take a miserable amount of time due to engravings? my trash gear alts can’t even get into runs let alone when they do the dps is garb. anyone playing the game non rmt doesn’t have enough gold to justify pheons for gearing more than one character.
AGS, you told us this game wouldn’t be p2w at launch. you said playing alts is how to avoid p2w. now please give us a break here and make a very needed change.
proposed solutions:
- make pheons more accessible in game
- heavily nerf the cost of pheons
- when creating an alt, all characters receive 300 char bound pheons for their use to gear up (or create char specific achievements for each tier… idc get creative)
- remove them altogether
- other solutions?
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Straight up put a gold tax of 10-15% on purchased items from the market auction just like Black desert does.
the real problem is that it feels very very miserable to pay to play. it is to pay to have the option to play f2p and be able to get your own gold. without sense
They make work in Korea but here they are a massive hinderance to experimentation and alts.
when you need to swipe card to get it? or maybe wasting around 3k Gold RN because the purple crystal price is around 1k for 95, because fck u ill take my 5 crystal tax, and log in reward… like 15 pheons every month with a an ongoing 9 pheons weekly? that’s a nonsense, besides if they add pheons to Prime Gaming will be more profitable to them instead of trying to give us leftovers
Maybe… Prime gaming rewards around 20 pheons? with their normal log in 15 Pheons reward and maybe a weekly purchase of 10-20 pheons roster limit with bloodstones/gold/pirate coins? aside of the purchable 9 weekly pheons because event (that could be higher up to 20 and won’t hurt anyone)
giving all characters 300 or so character bound will solve for the alt issue.
also removing pheons from mailing inside roster would be nice. makes no sense aside from trying to creating revenue.
Pheon is a stupid thing… I want to buy some accesories with 100-500 gold but i need 25 pheons, what mean 25 pheons? 95 blue crystal cost 1k gold now, ii need 250 blue crystal to can buy 25 pheons, that mean 2500 gold, so i need to pay 2500 gold to buy an 200 gold item? how is that fair for f2p player? Im not pro player, im not a rinch man and i play this game to relax, but i can`t buy my accesories because this ridiculous pheon system, and to be honest, if i must wait to drop good accesories, i think i most live 3-4 lifes to get 1 with good stats…
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as long as pheons exist all my alt’s are gonna be out of whack engraving wise and yes it is a money grab because depending on the trade ratio of gold to blue crystals i’m not forking over 9-10k gold for 800 blue crystals to buy 100 pheons so i can then have the right to buy what i want
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@Shadow_Fox I was never going to bump my own thread, but here you go since you seem to be be at least looking at them… There was a ton of discussion in this thread months ago that was completely ignored.
pheons are the worst. it discourages alt play. you can’t share items with your rostered characters. there isnt enough gold obtainable anymore to justify buying them. no one is buying anything anymore due to the pheon cost. its causing the crystal cost to sore and its freezing the entire economy - the entire game feels stale honestly.
you could have a really fun game where people feel motivated to gear their characters w fun builds etc but instead we’re sitting here unwilling to buy items solely bc of the pheon tax. you’re getting actual money from many sources why do you continue to use pheons as a cash cow. theyre literally going to ruin this game. 
ags you have no business developing or publishing and wasting our time lol. smilegate you have zero business in the western market if you refuse to adapt your game for the audience. lost ark really felt like it could’ve been dope but now every is banned or in the process of quitting + plus all big streamers have bounced to POE. rip.
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Well said. It feels such a drag to accessorize my 6 alts. So I end up using my leg acc still for almost all of my alts. Pheons tax us too much. It’s especially bad when it’s added with the RNG of stone cutting. Some folks I know spent like 100-150k gold just to cut a 7/7 stone. Most of it came from buying pheons.
i quick to this game, i’m playing only to buy pheons…
Its ridiculous
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I have thought about this argument a lot, but I don’t think it very much stands anymore, the markets pretty much are barren. People don’t want to pay pheons if it’s not for bis, so it’s a waste of time to even add anything semi-decent/decent.
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I love lost ark #pheons
Pheons are literally the worst mechanic I’ve ever seen in an MMO and it’s absolutely baffling that to even use the auction house for specific items, I need some stupid extra currency that can only be bought from the cash shop.
I can’t even attempt to gear my alts, which I’d love to do, because I need to pay 10s of thousands of gold for Pheons before I can even think about purchasing a gem or accessory. It’s an insane system which I never hope to see in another game for the rest of my life.
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And most of the hatred/anger are from when crystals were 1,000 gold. To anyone in power, that doesn’t go away with time… And now it’s more than double that cost. I know a lot of people that left during that time with pheons being a major factor… With the increased cost now…
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On NAE it’ll cost me 17,000 gold to buy the 100 Pheon pack 
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That is why it was a mistake to touch a Korean MMO.