Appreciate this thread – the team definitely expressed interest in getting feedback on how this worked as well as seeing the impacts on the economy and what not, so I will be sure to pass this along. It’s been great to see players positive view on it.
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This is a fair point that I overlooked when typing my previous response. I agree and hope that the gold shop sticks around for a bit(or a lot) longer.
No it’s not, and you guys just made up out of your mind for no reason, that Yoz’s Jar removal was due to Netherland when it has officially stated, and was probably true, that they removed it for the only reason that they got big back-lash about it by the community.
I guarantee you that if Gem Fuse, Quality or even just HONING was “legal” in Netherlands version, then Yoz’s Jar would have been legal as well because it’s litterally the same considering you are not forced to spend real money to use this feature.
Feature that are problematic are for example 3+1 card pack bundle that are basically lootboxes that you pay with Real money currency (Royal cristals).
You should be very careful by accepting for facts whatever thoughts comes into your mind. No you don’t have right always, you don’t have final wisdom and you should always put your thoughts into perspectives and apply criticism to your own thoughts.
Except, it is…
That’s not what the law against lootboxes is about.
yes and so would have been Yoz’s Jar. The only reason we don’t have Yoz’s Jar is because people like you cried out loud on the forum for it to not be into the game.
anyway save your words I’m done reading your message anyway, I know you and nothing good come from talking with you anyway, it’s like talking to a brick wall.
I have never said a word against the addition of Yoz’s Jar. Don’t state things you are not informed about, it’s spreading misinformation…
The contents of Yoz’s jar has direct, real money market value as purchasable items from the cash shop, whereas these other things do not.
“that the content of these loot boxes is determined by chance and that the prizes to be won can be traded outside of the game: the prizes have a market value .” In order to sell such items in the Netherlands a license is required but given the current laws, no license can be given to game companies, so “these loot boxes (were) prohibited .” The loot boxes used in the other games were deemed legal because they lack “market value .”
In all honesty, I’d rather all gambling be banned so you can actually receive the value of what you earn/purchase, however we can’t all get what we want.
Honor shard bags are absolutely worth getting from the box, how was it a scam?
Here is the difference, Yoz’s Jar skin, sure you can buy it from marketplace, but fundamentally can not exist without someone paying actual cash, and is behind a lootbox.
Honing, Gem Fusing, Quality, all can be earned through normal means WITHOUT cash.
Forgive my ignorance but youre telling me that no free skins, from prov stones or chaos drops or compensation chests can be used in the jar? Because that would clearly refute your claim.
idk about prov stones, its been a while, but chaos drop certainly does not when zeals explained on stream.
Definitely keep it around until after Aeromancer comes out. When Scouter first showed up, gold Evo books were 13k per, now they’re 3.3k a pop. And now I can finally afford to get my Paladin his gold class books. We need more supports, please consider keeping our golden child around for a lot longer. Thank you.
A big thing that people don’t realize too is with card packs offered there’s usually a limit to what you can buy
I looked up the jars and there’s no limit, you buy as many as you want
The card packs would be treated the same if they were unlimited buy which is why I think they get away with it in that regards
All chars build, who needs only one level class engraving, have always cheapest gold book. Because they dont need them, only one acc with +5.
Generally it goes cheaper, but not a hugh gap you hope for that. Support engraving is very demanding yet and every new engraving added (like new class) all gold books will be a bit expensiver.
My Barrage Artillerist, thanks to the new balance update, needed full gold BE books to make 5x3. +5 BE anything was outrageously expensive, especially if they included Spec, which I need. This event got me the rest of my gold books, along with three Paladin gold books. Please keep this going until we get all of the classes online and going.
Please, SA economy was really fucked up before, but with the frog it is getting so much better, new players are able to afford things now and it can get a lot better if they extend it for like, the next update.
Yeah please is really helping with the economy would be cool an extension
not fully true, cus then cardpacks would count as lootbox too, from my knowlegde and following netherlands news on lootbox marked as iligal a way to bypass it is by posting the chances of getting certin rarity in them, a lot of gmaes have done that too keep there lootboxes in netherlands and belgien, non disclosed lootboxes is consitered iligal, where disclosed is not.
the news headlines like netherlands ban lootboxes have been wrongly reported or twisted a bit,
as long as the % chance is disclosed they can sell
No. The cards have 0 market value. They are immediately untradeable when obtained. How could you miss such an obvious fact… The lootboxes that are banned are ones where the items obtained can be traded/sold at some form of market value and can lead to gambling addictions, as well as ones purchased directly for real currency that have market value and no limit to how much can be spent at any given time or to obtain a specific item within.
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and skins bought for real mony dont sell for real mony, they sell for gold so this is also out of equation
as far i know it cant be traded outside the game for real $$$
skins dont have a outside mony price, BUT only a INGAME currency price. that can be earned by ingame activity, hence why fifa lootbox passed the border anad was demmed legal, those lootboxes could be bought whit fifa coins that you use real mony to get, also fifa has an ingame marked like lost ark where lootbox items can be sold for the coins you earn, and buy for real mony.
and yors jar would be in same legal aspect as a fifa lootbox. THAT is pulished and sold in netherlands
I think this not only helped inflation/price of engravings but the amount of engraving books.
Some engravings you can’t buy all 20 at once, even right now, but having another source always helps with the supply and demand.
With the damage done from RMT/bots, I think they should keep the frog going until they can effectively keep the bot numbers down. Since bots are still horribly rampant, as soon as the frog poofs, prices will shoot back up and supply will also go down.