Possible reason for removing the Summoner from NA/EU launch

What if the Summoner class is the next class to receive a gender counterpart? Did Amazon decide to release both female Summoner and male “Summoner” classes at the same time with the future patch instead, to fight the gender lock?

I for sure hope so because that would be the only meaningful? reason for removing her from the release. And also, I would main the male summoner no questions asked.

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i heard the summoner class is bugged and they’re working on fixing it in RU so the only thing i can think of is that they’re removing it to fix it for us too. Laufie plays a lot in RU and she mentioned that the pets are bugged in PvP.

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I have the feeling Summoner and Reaper are getting a rework, after sorceress is released in Korea the popularity of Summoner has vanished almost too inexistent, and most people don’t like the Reaper in PvE(some people even don’t accept in the party in their 3) or PvP, they called Trash Can for almost everyone.

I have a strong filling about this rework of booth classes, in my case, I never like the Summoner, I hate the Identity of the classes be Summons, It will be much nicer if you can choose a skill to summon and the Identity skill(Z) some kind of AoE damage, this way who don’t use all the summons can choose 1 or 2 only to be flexible in the playstyle you wanna play, set some summons in identity skill force people use summons if they don’t want.

No class is being reworked. All classes are getting balanced every 2/3 months, that’s it. We will get the 4th tripods and the 3rd awakening skills early next year in KR, but nothing specific to Summoner, Destroyer or Arcana.

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I still have this feeling, we will have some confirmation now on 18 of December on LOA ON in Korea or in LOA Mini in Jun of 2022.

and I still have the filling what I am saying here will be confirmed, and because I am not a developer of the game like you who can confirm things, I just hope and feel.

Summoner popularity in KR vanished? Why are you spreading misinformation? The screenshot shows KR class popularity across all servers ilvl ~1575 registered to loawa.com. Source loawa.com (translated to english)

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Boring and tendentious as always by many people in this forum.

One screenshot, and it’s all the FACT you want to analyze?

Okay then, shall we?

If you and I and other people, since day one in any version of Lost Ark not mention NA, not release yet, try any mage class, Summoner was there, when the game comes out in Korea, Russia, and Japan.

Because you don’t have any fully DPS mage since arcana has some weird mechanics that you need stack cards first and after getting a full DPS burst, many people choose Summoner because she was there since day one the game has launched in Korea.

Years pass and Koreans get Season 2.0, Tier 1 to 3, lots of things and so one so forth, in the middle of this current year, Korea release finally the Sorceress the full DPS mage that everyone was looking for, and as far could be, summoner was the close to her playstyle, many of the summoners whoever had made a Summoner maybe not a SUMMONER GUY/GIRL, many of them play as summoner because the class they like wasn’t there for them to choose, they were forced to play summoner and I can guarantee, wester prefers fully DPS char instead summoner by far.

Now, I am one of those players, I have spent almost 3 years playing lost ark, and now the new sorceress release, but my Summoner is in tier 3 content now, only now sorceress has been released…

As you can see in your screenshot, it’s sure summoner will be in high popularity in tier 3, she was inside the game 3 years ago since day one, or do you think people will DELETE 3 years of work because another class has been released?

No, they won’t delete their char, logic, but many of them will start making the class they ever needed and wasn’t there.

If you want really prove your point, where is the screenshot comparison after Sorceress was released in the middle of 2021 vs new summoner classes, how many sorceresses is made for PvE, and how many summoners are mad for PvE, both are incredible in PvP but summoner is older and more famous because is hard to deal with her pet’s in PvP.

If you can prove I am wrong, I will apologize and say I really was spreading miss information, but…

YOU CANNOT ACCUSE ME TO SPREAD MISINFORMATION WITH ONLY 1 SCREENSHOT, WITHOUT ANALYSING IT.

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At least Yoon provided A source and some kind of proof, you gave nothing else but your assumptions and personal views.

Unless you prove us wrong with some kind of data that Sorceress is more popular than Summoner, please stop spreading miss information.

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Finally, I found the video on my history, unfortunately, is in the Portuguese Brazil language, I set the timestamp of the start of talking about summoner rework and losing popularity.

I will not translate for you guys, go do your thing and prove I am wrong.

The Youtuber in this video, speaks English too, you can see them talk to people at the party and discord in English, but because the channel is a Brazilian channel, he speaks more Portuguese, because of their audience, goes ask him on YouTube about the loss of popularity in KR.

I haven’t gotten into PvE in this game at all but I’ve heard that Summoner is a very popular class for PvE progression because pets will passively damage the boss while the player focuses on dodging stuff.

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Why should I prove that you are wrong? I am not going to spend a single minute doing that.

now my prove is there, anything else?

How does posting a video of someone else giving their opinion (without any numbers either) prove anything? You are saying that no one is playing summoner but you are not providing any numbers at all. Yoon posted actual numbers with the source being loawa.com. Are you suggesting those numbers are not real or are you of the new people in society that state things as fact without any evidence whatsoever?

My 2 cents on this matter is that AGS is too busy censoring the game and dyeing NPCs so they couldnt fix any bugged pets the summoner class might had?

Censorship, woke and a dead game asap > all?

/sarcasm

Well, you were stating that the summoner popularity since season 2 on KR servers is close to nonexistent. Afaik, that is simply not true. As a matter of fact at the beginning of season 2 summoner was so overtuned that it was nerfed (Saintone also states this in an interview with Stoopz). Lots of people rerolled summoner in that period.

Btw, a new gear tier is also a perfect time for rerolling. You don‘t need to stay with your main forever.

I follow a lot of korean streamers on twitch and from my point of view summoners are top tier dps atm even post nerf.

Maybe (most probably) the summoners popularity was decreasing at some point of time. No one is arguing that. But you talk of nonexistent popularity. Those are strong words you pick… and they draw a picture which may be misleading for people reading your posts being far away from reality.

As I said before, the summoner has lost popularity, and your screenshot is proving I am right, the tendentious screenshot before from @Yoon just proves what I said, older class is easy to get high-level lost gear, and be used in and game, in @Yoon screenshot summoner was higher close to the top, because this I said in that particular gear score is normal, and your screenshot now proves I am writing about the popularity of the sorceress is much higher than summoner, ty.

I never said because sorceress was new cannot be in high rank, we were discussing 1500+ gear score, that why I ask lower gear score comparing, and you did. ty, this just proves, the sorceress is catching up even though is almost 3 years now, and as I said before, this proves the preference of a full DPS class instead of a summoner.

On lower ilvl sorc is more popular than summoner, agreed. However, summoners popularity is not close to being nonexistent. Especially in higher ilvl ranges (I posted the highest ilvl, aka endgame content).

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I am watching SYWO steam now, I am out of here now.

It’s not irregular for a new, strong class to be more popular than a launch class after how ever many years the game has been out so far in KR. I don’t think the KR data on this subject is relevant for new regions. Every class is new for new players.

A classic spellcaster is unique but so is the only pet class.

AGS said they swapped Sorc for SMN because they felt like it. People are asking for the “real reason” but I think that’s literally it.

I agree but that’s how it is. It’s clear both in how they act and what they’ve said that they’re going to be making changes without our input because “insert PR reason” (they feel like it). This forum exists as a place for players to vent frustration and nothing more. Feedback is pointless when changes are set in stone before they’re even implemented.