Priority: RMT or Bots

I’ve been following the forums page for a while. Over the last week or two, a lot of the discontent shifted from Bots over to RMT players. I’d say it’s pretty even based on the new threads popping up. I wanted to get everyone’s opinion on who SG/AGS should be prioritizing. Here are my thoughts.

Prioritize banning the RMT players:

I know the mentality is to ban RMT players because it eliminates the target audience for bots. My problem with this is it’s gotten so out of hand that the active player base is primarily bots. If we wanted this to be the solution, SG/AGS should have done this early on to set their stance on RMTing. If this was done during the first month with harsher punishments, the mentality that RMT is not ok would have a heavier weight to each person thinking of RMTing.

Prioritize Banning Bots:

I know this is the harder of the two options. There really is no efficient solution short of providing our personal information such as SSNs. These programmers live off the revenue they make from this, so you can be sure they have all the methods under the sun to bypass any quick fix AG/SG can throw at them.

What do you guys think? I personally would like there to be frequent ban waves, weekly. At this point, I don’t care about the Bots/RMTers. I just care that my experience isn’t interrupted such as the long queue times. That’s been the biggest factor for me these last couple weeks. I can deal with seeing 100 bots running around. I can deal with players having a Sun on their back. I just can’t deal with waiting in a queue like I’m entering disneyland.

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Using 3rd - party services have always run the risk of “losing it all”. These RMT buyers already know the risk.

And that’s the problem. Punishment wasn’t dealt properly in the beginning. So, now you have 15+% of the real players base performing RMT instead of <5% of the player base due to the lack of consequences. Move forward to today, I definitely do not want the game to lose a chunk of the player base when the population is a fraction of what it was during the first couple months.

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Oh yeah, i completely agree. For someone who is RMT buying, a 3 day ban from Lost Ark means nothing compared to a F2P missing out on three days. The RMT guy is just gonna spend more of his RMT gold after he comes back from his 3 day vacation.

Idk if there’s a way to fix what is already destroyed! They couldn’t fix it when the problem was small… now that it seems harder to handle all those bots and RMTers!

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they have that feature wich automatic sending gold through auction(and also they will always make a new account cuz if you got to lv 50 they claim you can got 400g)… maybe ags need to have some 2nd verification on AH.


also the one who running the bot some of them are real player that only lazy grinding and want get gearscore 1490 wihtout spending money.

yup even on FFXIV and WOW the one who got ban was seller not buyer… the buyer will got 3 day ban not perma, at the end of the day it was business after all

i find this funny…i got a notice that the code of conduct has been updated…

and then read this in the code of conduct

Do not cheat, bot, hack, or use other software or services that give you an unfair advantage through, for example, unattended gameplay or game modifications…

you all shoud go and read it for newly added content in the code of conduct

RMT users are also potential good in-game shop customers so priority will be split or mby even more focused on bots.
I know RMT buyers is the core reason why we have bots in the first place, but you will always have RMT but if you want to reduce their numbers you need a harsh system of sanctions.
You will also always have bots but not in this crazy capacity.

The thing is AGS can also reduce some shop/exchange numbers to combat RMT/bots.
I mean if you offer people some decent discounts and prices in general , most of them won’t risk going to 3th party sellers.

The longer the situation lasts, the more whales will cheat on third-party sites, the more bots we will have. And the game’s economy will be destroyed: F2P players will never have access to the auction house even when playing 8 hours a day.
Amazon have created a game to enrich third-party sites, and in the long run the only players will be cheaters and bots.

But the worst is this feeling of injustice with all these cheating whales who don’t get banned permanently, a bit like the guy who fights in a bar but who doesn’t get kicked out because he’s a big fat customer.

so let me get this straight, RMT’ers are basically potential customers right? so what about the other potential customers that see no reason to spend on this game as their money will never get them as much gold as someone who RMTs this is why i have only bought the ark pass and no gold, ill never have as much as someone who rmt’ed. Amazon had to send a strong message early on and perma ban the people who did it that way everyone would be afraid to do it.

It already is losing players due to what happened during the first couple months. It’s never to late to ban those RMTers, better doing it now than later.

There is an efficient solution to tackle bots.

A indefinite lockdown of all regions/servers to then proceed into more frequently ban waves to cleanse out all of the bots. Afterwards, revisit the registration process and change it to that of a process that takes place in closed beta games on how it selects/lets in players while having its game/server closed off to the general public.

Some say what about the new players? I say what new players? The insignificant amount of potential new players vs the present significant bot issue hurting the game the most right now.

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They should be doing ban waves at the very least once every 2 weeks so ppl on highly bot populated servers don’t have to wait queues. Even a monkey would be able to reach that conclusion.

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What do you want to say? That AGS :monkey: is stupid ?
Their :monkey: is a genius and he has a plan!
He will feed all the bots with BANanas and then he will dance /lailai …just you wait!