What you have to understand, is you can put a price on how much it costs on average to get 1 piece of a legendary skin.
It’s 11 purple skins + 900 blue crystals.
So for it to be 50k a piece, the cheapest purple skins would have to be 4k (they’re currently like 300-500g on NAW)
But then you have to remember, for every legendary piece, this generates 9 purple skins, which drives the price of purple skins to use in it down a bunch. That’s why in every other region the price started at like 40-50k and dropped to like 20k a few days later.
I’m not arguing with your math. I agree if we had a normal market your price estimates are accurate.
Just pointing out that a lot of people on NA have 500k+ gold from RMT bots and this will 100% have a huge impact on prices which other regions didn’t have to deal with.
I think the price would drop after a week or two as more come into the market but your way of calculating the price taking accounting for the actual cost of the item won’t matter to a lot of the na playerbase that has stockpiles of RMT gold.
And sellers will list them for as much as they can regardless of how much it actually cost them. This is why are grudge books cost more than korea right now when they should be cheaper since our gold income is much less.
If the recent bot waves stay effective though, I think your estimates are spot on. Doesn’t matter though since we aren’t getting them.
No, Grudge books are expensive because there are only so many and you can’t just generate more. Plus most people want 20 of them eventually.
With legendary skins you can pretty much spam generate them without real limit, and people only really need 1 (most people aren’t going to get them for their alts for a while I would think).
I would say “what if the Yoz’s jar was released ?” If you don’t want to spend, you don’t. But why would you suppress this option from people who can / want to spend money ? Just because you are part of the majority that doesn’t want it doesn’t allow you to choose for the people in the minority, especially when the Yoz’s jar won’t have any impact on you and is not something you MUST buy.
I’m gonna be honest : I don’t like lootboxes. But I wouldn’t mind the Yoz’s jar. Why ? Because I would spend golds on the market to get the skin I want. And at least, I would get it. Now there is a chance that we will never get some of the best skins (hopefully I’m wrong !)
Just checked, more like $674 for that, but yeah, some items are inflated sure.
The thing is, Grudge does not have a large supply.
With Legendary Skins, the supply is infinite and the price can’t just go to whatever random large number.
Remember, that for a single legendary skin piece to be 50k, the price of purple skins needs to be 4k+. However, with the gold exchange ratio right now, I can buy purple skins for effectively 1600g each using Royal Crystals (2k royal crystals = 3 skins, 2k royal crystals = 4700g).
This means if the legendary skins were for whatever reason higher prices, actual non-RMT whales would be better off spamming Yoz’s Jar instead of converting Royal Crystals to gold, which would increase supply and drive the price down.
This sort of puts a cap on the price of legendary skin pieces ~23-25k at current crystal prices once all the impatient people that just don’t care buy them.
I did exaggerate but Current RMT prices are at an all time due to recent bot bans. You were able to get like 200k gold for less than $100 in the past.
I get that but if something has a limited supply (like legendary skins would have for the first couple of weeks) and the people wanting to buy it have ridiculous amounts of gold, then what happens to the price of that item?
It goes up.
Grudge is a perfect example. Very high demand, limited supply, would result in high prices (like on KR).
Now throw in that everybody that wants to buy it has hundreds of thousands of cheap RMT gold into the mix, you get it going for 20k when an average player can only reliably make 40-50k gold a week.
It doesn’t have a limited supply. You can print infinite. The only limiter is how fast you can spam Yoz’s jar, and anyone can do it even f2p players since Yoz’s jar is available for blue crystals and purple skins are on the AH for gold.
We’ve seen Yoz’s jar in other regions, and the price tanked in every one after a few days (according to people who played in those regions at least).
Remember if the skins are overpriced, it makes Yoz’s jar very profitable, so people will spam it, which brings the price down.
If skins are 50k, and it only costs 10-23k on average to get one, then people will just be spamming Yoz’s jar because it’s free money. That’s why the price can’t just remain arbitrarily high. It’s not like grudge where the supply is just dictated by RNG drops. Those people with the 500k RMT gold are going to be spending it on skins and Yoz’s Jar to farm more gold.
There’s 11 pages on NAW, and the amount of pages doesn’t matter, because that’s just the count of how many individual skin pieces exist multiplied by how many times they can be traded. You can’t actually see how many skins there are anywhere because one of those could have like 500 listed for example and you can only see the 10 lowest price points.
And since you continue to fail to actually read anything, with the price of crystals, if skins go up too much then it will just be more profitable for whales to sell skins instead of converting royal crystals to gold, which keeps the price of skins down (that and Yoz’s Jar flooding the market with purple skins from the jar).
We have the data from multiple regions, the skins don’t end up being that expensive, and the price equalizes after a few days when people understand how everything converts and how all the different things are related. Tbh would probably be even faster on our version, someone would probably make a reddit post and google sheet explaining how all the prices and currencies are related and people would quickly optimize the prices.
I agree that people that want Yoz Jar are a vocal minority.
But don’t pretend that people that “want Yoz jar to NOT come into the game” is all the other players, because that’s straight up wrong.
At best, people that can’t “stand” Yoz Jar being release are even lower than people that wanted it to be release.
99% of people don’t care about Yoz Jar. But then if you don’t care about Yoz Jar, why would you be mad that it is released ? It’s always the same story, if you don’t intend to use that feature, why crying for it to be removed ? Make no sense to me, but it seems that for some people it’s important. I wish I could block theim all from the forum directly so I’m sure I will never play with theim tbh. Because people that care about things that are not their business are annoying people.
It’s because of the community full of selfish, entitled whiners.
Their facade of the holier-than-thou OH, WON’T YOU THINK OF THE CHILDREN approach hides a selfish agenda, and that is that if they cannot roll for the skins, then nobody can. Johnny has a cool toy; I WANT ONE TOO. “KR and RU servers have all of these classes. WHY WEREN’T THEY ALL RELEASED IN GLOBAL ON DAY 1.”
And then when NA West had large queue times and random server downtimes, NA West got compensation. What did EU players do? “WHY DOES ONLY NA WEST GET COMPENSATION? EVERYONE SHOULD GET COMPENSATION EVEN THOUGH OUR SERVERS WEREN’T DOWN.”
