bro u literally said bard is a team dependent class and it can’t win by itself and then ur wondering why its not S tier
if you need other people in your team to be good then why the hell would your class be considered S tier?
maybe in PREMADE 3v3 there will be a different tier list but this game doesn’t even have the option for it so it’s irrelevant
if you think bard is so OP why dont u go say that to all these bards in bronze/silver see how they feel about it and see what they’r gonna think about u when they recall all the joke teammates they’ve had
Bronze/Silver player should just learn the game at their rythm and they will get a better rating with time.
Tier List is not Solo Carry Tier List, even tho bard is team dependent it doesn’t mean they are weak at all it just mean you will be more efficient with a team who know how bard work and how much peel and frontlane is important for them to perform.
A bard bring way more advantage in a team than a blade would ever be especialy if the opponent team don’t have a support because they can only do big boy combo to win otherwise they are going to loose all the trade.
It’s not even a secret that support in PVP are godtier even tho bard is not at low elo they shine when people know how your class work.
Also the fact that shadowhunter/gunslinger/sorc are at the lowest tier just show how much your tier list should be rename to :
"What are the class i don’t know how to play against " or " What are the class that stomp me ".
Only one of those 3 classes are S tier and it’s wardancer, and that’s at a really high skill level only. Supports are the strongest classes in PVP, esp ranked 3v3; folllowed closely by sorc/gunslinger/shadowhunter(A tier)
Deadeye and sharpshooter need buffs, but only because they’re outshined by gunslinger pretty much across the board in kit (which is new and pretty unbalanced atm)
Is a Fister a Striker or Scrapper? I’m confused now. Seems to me it would be Scrapper.
I’d you mean Scrapper, yes they sure hit real hard and have a lot of knock up. On the other hand they have some of the most avvoidable abilities in the game and they are super susceptible to hard CC, like freeze.
I’d you mean Striker…well I’ve noticed they do kind of mediocre damage, but can juggle you all day long. Unless of course you have at least one teammate that can tap them on the shoulder to break the combo.
Source : Make an effort and write a phrase on google to see litteraly GM player from KR or RU talk about class strenght or tierlist and not a GM with 70 games like those on our server for the moment.
And yeah i think GM player from KR who play GM games with litteraly all the class are at least a minimum objective.
Dunno if you was talking to me but it work for everyone who ask for my source.
fister is all the fister classes
wardancer,scrapper,striker,soulfist
they’re all broken beyond reason
and yeah, striker may not do 9999 trillion damage but damage isn’t everything, they are way too fast and have too much mobility and knockdowns, its impossible to do anything against them unless ur like i dunno maybe dogblade (and arti?)counters them but the rest of the classes are weak against them
btw idk this guy saying silver/bronze im diamond-plat lmao and i played 9 different classes else id be higher if i just spammed 1
Supports are S rank for PVP on 1vs1. On 3vs3 supports relies on his team, Bard even more than Paladin and doesnt matter how hard you work, you won’t win if your team mates doesnt help you or dont do dmg.
I’m playing rankeds on my bard and theres a lot of fight that I’m losing because my other 2 team dps are dealing 200k dmg (same numbers than me as bard, just peeling and protecting chain ccs) and you know what happen when I help my team mates? I end on a 3vs1 while my team mates are just watching or dont understand how superarmors and ccs works.
On low elo, Bard is completely unplayable and Martial Artists are completely broken vs backliner classes, because people still dont understand that this is a 3vs3 and all have to help each other, but despite of all, on low elo you only see Gunslinger, Sharpshooters, Sorcs and Blades playing alone, trying to carry and facetanking dmg (that always ends on 4 deaths) and when you help them, they flee and let you die on a 3vs1.
You know what happen when a Striker is on the rival team? End chasing me as bard during the entire match, while my team are trying to kill a Sorc.
To add, slow debuffs only applies to movement speed and not to movement skills, so, you, as a bard, you use your dodge and March, you gonna end CCd by an artial martist chasing you because dashes arent affected by slow debuffs
same balance a few unreleased classes but that wont change anything, its a overall tier list not specific matchup and we arent missing any only counters.
