Rapport dialogue and lack of platonic options with women NPCs

meanwhile the replies on this thread could easily fill up a bingo card :skull:

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I started playing SWG when it came out mainly because I liked Star Wars and then I went to SWTOR and played a little wow but then you still have these “guys” that do not believe a lady can play a video game. It is kind of funny since I met my boyfriend on SWG and we been together since but yet according to some guys ladies don’t play video game. Interesting…

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“We need diversity in the game, every opinion matters, but no women oriented story/characters, no support for different beliefs/ideas, no consideration for the races other than a select few, no varieties in human emotions, no sexual choices, no funny/casual aspects, no content outside the selected age range. Overall very diverse game is what we are bringing.” - Any company these days.

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I had a final thought on the subject. Our version of the game is already different than the others. We’ve had several changes nobody on the forums even asked for or expected like different faces and hair and of course the dark blue skin demon form. We’re well past the “leave my pure Korean version alone”, yeah? Our version of the game does care about what people think. Why don’t we use that power for good, then? This could be a chance to get a change(addition) to the game that appeals to a broader audience just like intended with their other changes.

Who could argue against more options? As long as it’s not taking away something like the other changes did.

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heck the first girl i ever kissed i met on one of the first mmos ever, Meridian 59. She traveled half a country to come and see me too, poor girl.

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I’m fine with platonic options as long as we can still keep romance options.
After all, what kind of weirdo would prefer to partake in purely platonic relationships in a fantasy game? :smirk:

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You are asking them to change, change would imply that something has changes, adding things is also the process of change.
“Furthermore, let’s not forget that this hypothetical “clearly gay focused game” doesn’t actually exist.”
Yes that is what a hypothetical is, no one thought it was real, and nothing in my comment assumed either.

I know exactly what you are asking and my comment should have made that clear, I’m sorry if it was not clear though.

I stated that if it were to take time away from these things should be in the game already, then I’m not in support. Maybe I should have said “for now” to make it clear. I don’t think anything in my post said I was fully opposed to this suggestion. Merely a take on explaining why the other person made a perfectly ok point that made perfect sense in this context. As long as giving you an “out” to avoid such aspects of the game you do not enjoy, such as myself. I do know how devs work etc, as they have made those talking points for years when it comes to on disk dlc etc.

Simply put, I have no beef with you as long as it doesn’t impact other aspects of game dev time for more (personally such as your own ideal) important things.
Have a good one

I completely agree with this. Im straight woman who plays female character and its creeping me out that every single girl in game flirts with me while men treat me as a bro. My heart sinks every single time Im asked to find a woman for Thirain while I also have to keep pressing G to skip stuff with every woman I rapport for adventure tome or for rewards just to get it over with because Im just not interested in seeing them flirt with me -.- or call me Lord, and that’s not what we should settle with, we should enjoy those stuff so god, give us option to flirt with men and keep women as a friend. Cause bro Im seriously jealous when Im asked to find a bride for Thirain while I hold my breath and jump when he says between the lines that Im the one during friendly 3 (but then again women just straight up say they love you while u have to look for it with him)

The whole game treats you as a man even tho u play female char. Punika was honestly the last bit for me as even the main quest throws you into a love relationship with Shana (maybe Nia if u choose to dance with her, idk) and that there was no fcking option to say I’m not into her or that I love someone else was pissing me off. There should be an option as with the titles to choose if u want to be addressed as a female or male and same with rapport. Because as stated multiple times, straight women and gay men dont want to be in this position (same as straight men or lesbians dont want to flirt with men - why should only you enjoy this part of the game while we have to skip it). Just imagine if it was the other way around and u wouldn’t be so eager to play this game either, so stop belittling us. I still enjoy playing it but that I have to deal with this and can’t enjoy the rapport system (just pretty much do it for rewards and turn off my brain during the conversations) is really pissing me off.

There should just be an option, that’s all I want. Also hearing that Thirain gets Affectionate is pleasing me deeply and can’t wait for it. Im already building a love shack in my stronghold just for him lol :smiley:

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I guess some people feel ‘adding’ will ‘change’ or ‘remove’ the current game experience. This could be due to what AGS have done with the game (I think some people deem it as westernizing a Korean game?). People wants the KR experience, and anyone giving feedback not related to their wants/desire on a feedback forum may be deem against them? That their frustration went unheard but someone else’s unrelated feedback was taken into consideration instead? Or ungrateful for wanting the game to appeal to wider audience? I don’t know.

Theres also the assumption that ‘changing’ something will take away dev time from the things they want (e.g., classes not yet available in NA/EU), delaying it’s releases. I don’t know whether this is true, or how AGS/SG works, but this game have both horizontal and vertical content. With that, the devs should know how to plan their own game development with all these diverse type of content they want players to experience. And if content gets delayed because of another aspect of the game, well, it just means their planning game fell through.

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Perhaps, but then why aren’t they opposing all topics that want to add something then? I don’t see these people in the “Hide ship skin option” thread complaining about that not being the Korean experience and taking away dev time.

Don’t get me wrong, I love the idea to hide ship skins and I want that feature too, but what they are asking for isn’t so different from what we are asking for. It’s an option that you can choose not to use that changes nothing of the game experience unless you want it to.

It doesn’t ring as a sincere reason to oppose my suggestion when they aren’t applying it to everything.

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I actually haven’t read that discussion. Maybe I’ll pop in later to see what’s it about.

But yeah, as someone who like having options (e.g. to romance or to stay friends) in games like bioware games and persona, some of the opposing opinions are, um, seems not easily understood by me. Is the game’s slow pace of update really triggering people when people give feedbacks for added features to the game? I surely hope not.

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Honestly if i were doing rapport with gay thirain and instead of saying “GGGGGG GG GGGGGG” he said “GGGGGGGGGGGGG GGGG” i wouldn’t mind.

would you feel the same if the game had 90% gay thirains throwing themselves at you everytime you talk to them and dancing with their bulges and pecs zoomed in on your screen to the revelry row soundtrack for 3 min straight? that’s pretty much what you get with the sasha rapport storyline :skull: you have to admit if the roles were reversed a lot of people would be out here complaining bc the rapport storylines are absolutely ridiculous and this is coming from a bi woman who actually thinks sasha is cute. the rapport storylines are way too sexual and a bit cringe, it would be a welcome change to have an option to friendzone the character which is basically just a different line of text that doesn’t show you the sexy dance cutscene but says something like “thanks for being such a good friend” …

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It was merely a joke refering to how i don’t really care about rapport options cause i skip all of them :stuck_out_tongue:

And it’s totally fine that you don’t care. No one has to care about every feature. I don’t care about assassin hairstyles, for example, since I don’t play assassin. But if someone had a feedback regarding assassin hairstyles I wouldn’t get in the way of that just because that content isn’t for me.

Not that you are getting in the way. You’re just making a joke. I’m just saying it for the benefit of anyone reading.

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And make them sleep on your bed(s)

Between us, yesterday was doing a quest a quest on my berserker about what it takes to be a queen. And the lady in Luterra was like a queen has to be so and so and polite. Then I got the polite emote, so maybe my berserker will become Thirain’s queen.

But back to the subject yes, giving liberty to the player to choose what type of relationship he has whit the report characters is the way to go always.

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I was talking about that the other day with pleople who play with me.

I like the rapport system, but it has to be improved, really. Like, not having a single male affection? sad. (Would I choose them? no, but players should be able to choose whatever they want.)

We just need more choices with rapport and affections than we currently do. More waifus (I just want Azena’s affection, why hurt me like that) and more husbandos. As you said, win-win situation, literally. We probably won’t have it (as sad as that sounds), but it’s a nice thing to hope

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As a woman irl and playing female toons, I find it ridiculous to be forced into lesbian relationships with the female rapport npcs regardless of it being a man’s fantasy. I don’t like it. Nothing against lgbt…etc, just I would like other options as well. This game acts like there are no female gamers and have ignored that. It may be one of my only complaints about this game. Otherwise I find it very fun with lots of stuff to do.

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I don’t mind, really, I am a woman and I consider myself as straight, but I am not blind, so I can tell a hot woman as well - and to me the relationship with Sasha is a lot of fun. I enjoy flirting with her and I like the kind of woman she presents.

I would rather critisize the Armour, esp. with my main, Deathblade, witch has to walk around like a prostitute. To me its not even sexy but brassy. I would very much prefer a more casual or secretive style… or more martial.