Wait players are still using WW and Destruction to do Guardian mechanics and it is required?
I do it when I see someone either dead or CC’d other than that it is a waste of grenades.
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It’s not about being cheap, it’s about not having a need for grenades in Guardian Raids unless you have a bad party who are not skilled enough… I DO use grenades all the time if I do matchmaking through a custom lobby that requires is or a Legion Raid.
But when I can’t spare grenades due to a previous jail that depleted me than I go through a completely random matchmaking and NOT a custom lobby that requires it, usually it is very unskilled people that stop and complain and report for this while wasting everyone’s time in doing so and being toxic.
Honestly, I never experienced this in Caliligos run… I don’t throw grenades at all.
What guardian is this?
I thought you are talkin’ about Kungel (again), but it’s really about Cali. lol
Flare and Phero are nice thing, but the rest is not necessary unless you have zero idea about own skills and just smashing the keyboard with 1590 weapon.
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Some builds have low amount of distraction skills, so its not always possible to pass w/o d grenade. Who cares about cali after nerf anw
@Roxx, she never wanted to clarify things on this subject, some CMs say it is punishable and others say it is not. Roxx had made a short message that said “kick abuse” is not punishable as long as the majority of the group votes to exclude you. It means that you can demand a ransom from someone or risk being deported. You have the right to kick someone if you are with 3 mates and this, for no valid reason. As long as you’re with another mate, you’re untouchable but in MM it’s a fair for those who impose the rules on others. So yes, CMs validate toxic and anti-ToS behaviors. There’s a lot of hypocrisy from the CMs, because Amazon Games Support says it’s punishable but hey, apparently it’s complicated to get the same answer from the same company.
Personally I warm and I ask for a kick in Guardians for the following reasons:
-Cheapo
-Bad Stuff / Troll Stuff
-Die without pot
-Fail mechanics
-Toxic
After getting screwed several times, now I’m not letting anything pass, I’m not giving anyone a chance and that if they are excluded it’s because they either don’t have the level for the content or I think they waste my time and that of my mates. So NO MERCY with PUs
I had warned about this problem which was becoming recurrent, but the CMs never wanted to discuss this subject and despised those who wanted to open the dialogue to realize that there are people who kick with the intention of losing time to others, because it makes them laugh.
Here is a link where the CMs contradict each other (it’s a pity)
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how ironic
you yourself are one of the people that wastes everyone’s time as well. removing a player doesn’t adjust mob hp after they’re gone. you’re left to do the remainder of the fight as a 3 man rather than a 4 man which surprise, takes longer and is additional wasted time
I tried for several months to open the dialogue on this, but no one wanted to talk about it (except to troll and despise). By dint of getting kicked for such and such a reason, you’re tired of it, but really tired of others spoiling your pleasure in playing, so now I’m like them, until it blows up or a CM please discuss the issue again (but that won’t happen). If people have imposed their rule on me, I will impose mine on them and they are even more extreme, that’s all. 
I prefer to waste a little of my time even if it means losing more to those who arrive with their hands in their pockets. Too bad, I’ll lose 2-3mins, they’ll lose 10, and if they continue in this way, it will be 10mins every day. Someone who takes advantage of others without doing the minimum of what is expected of him, sorry but he does not stay long in my raids, and too bad if I lose a little time. There are no half measures in this game, it’s only binary, so like the others I play by my rules now.
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2x 1lvl weakpoint skills are enough, most of them should have commonly in their build. Seems low, but Cali isn’t Kungel. Yeah, they use w/d, if the skills are in cd.
Usually Supports dont much attack like DPS, thats why they have the skills ready for the mechs.
just warn the first person to say something about it, who cares if you don’t use battle items. Its a game design issue not a player issue. Our destruction skills should be able to do enough dmg and not rely on additional items.
I think all the players who warn kick others have had extremely unsuccessful Guardian Raids, I have never ever failed a Guardian Raid with my Bard, never. I did fail a few with Reaper when it’s full DPS team and people don’t use HP potions… In early start Guardians had wipe mechanics, now they are all nerfed to Tetris level, all can be done without battle potions, most are over geared anyways for Guardians even on alts…
But I guess it’s the skill in question (not knowing but taking guides literally, without taking into consideration the nerfs, class knowledge, etc…)
Well some builds don’t even have those unfortunately. As a bard you have 2 destruction skills, 1 of them on ur 2nd main buff, another on counter. So if you used your buff skill to (you know) buff party, and then you did counter, you got no more destruction.
I’m just saying that when failing this mech was punishing 1d bomb was a must, now its like whatever.
the destruction check is 12 points and if all 4 players use 2 level 1s, thats only 8 points which is not enough
8 is less than 12, quick maffs
Source about 12 points destruction check?
“each player needs about 3 destruction points”
4x3 = 12
if you solo it, you’ll also notice 2 points isn’t enough to break it
Yeah. To those who say they don’t want to throw battle items because it’s matchmaking and you should expect that; you should also expect there’s a system to vote kick you if you’re considered a hindrance to the group. Right? 
Just keep match making until you get a group that doesn’t vote kick you out for not throwing battle items. It’s that simple! Or just solo it if you’re doing so much dps to carry the team without battle items. 
May it was Pre-nerfed Cali, before the release everyone was talking about the BI requirement for WW/D because of this video. After the release most of them went realised, it’s somehow different than the video stated.
One destruction bomb has 2.2 points, it’s not enough either if all 4 are using db = 8.8 points. Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/lostarkgame/comments/uyoxwy/are_two_lv1_weak_point_hits_equal_to_one_lv2_weak/
12 points may outdated or mistranslated.
nerfs never changed the destruction requirement. better parties just use less bombs since they get 1 less orb phase and now every chimp in the west thinks an FPPD party makes sense for them when majority are still getting 2 orb mechs
l’ve been logging every run since 1-2 weeks ago and the average party finder is at 3.5mil
2.7bil (cali hp) / (3.5mil x 3) = 255 seconds = 4:15 clear time which is a 2 orb fight. these people have no business doing FPPD yet if the actual goal is an “equal” battle item share
1 destruction + everyone else’s skills is generally enough to break it hence the swap to fppd but if you have to do 2 orb phases, destruction is the only person getting cucked having to throw for the second one
Okay. I’m coming from Solo vs Cali to test, I had never before.
It does actually break. 2x 1lvl breaks it. Had 4x mechs (because Im backattacker, its kinda lost 50% dmg) and everytime 2x 1lvl breaks, different skills with 1lvl - same result.
About Stagger bar: Middle-High + Rune (Legend Overwhelm) = One shot.