Research 1370-1415

Pretty obvious no?

Of course they will. Some people probably think they’ll get flat 10% honing buff research in stronghold lab no matter their ilvl.

Pretty sure that patch note was added accidentally and was taken from the KR version of the game as, it made sense to pull it from the NA/EU release at launch otherwise whats the point in T1 and T2 content at the release.
Pretty sure there was questions asked around this to SG and the response was there are things to learn in T1 and T2 so we want players to experience it.
I would argue at this stage there are arguments on implementing it now to speed up alt progression, it could also be added in a way that doesn’t effect new players, it could just be implemented via the SH research honing buff rather than just globally.

“it could just be implemented via the SH research honing buff rather than just globally.”

Meaning they’d need to make something that doesn’t exist in the game currently. Waste of time for them to make it instead of just releasing it globally which DOES exist already.

KR release had an image, not text in that format.

Also Roxx said they just translated what they got from SG.

Yes, which makes it seem very much like SG pushed for T3 on release (confirmed by Gold River that he personally made sure it happened), SG pushed for fast Legion Raids (Gold River said 1 month to Argos, 1 month after that Valtan), and SG added the honing buffs to support that timeline.

Then AGS tried it and went “woah this makes T1/T2 way too fast” and had SG remove the buffs.

Of course due to this:

  • Disaster Argos release
  • Valtan delayed a month
  • Glavier delayed a week because they had to change SV patch and remove 1415+ content
  • New player experience is awful and game will just continue to lose players without really any new ones joining
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Personally I wouldn’t say Argos release was a “disaster” but it wasn’t handled in the best way either. Just didn’t have a lot of people I guess but personally I did Argos end of Week 1 without spending money on the game.

And how much did you have to play to do that? 14h a day? More?

Don’t remember. I did play a lot on launch though. I had my main hit T3 and get full 1302 Chaos gear on Feb 21 or at least steam achievement says so. 13 days after head start and then first alt was in T3 a week or something later.

I never do honing 2 to 3 weeks (when delayed) before monthly update. Because I know honing buff for t1-t2-t3 can happened. With this I’m always happy when a big suprise like this is coming. Thanks @Roxx and the team. Hope the story helper come soon, but I dont want to be spoiled :wink: I love surprise

Who else saved their untradeable leapstones on all their alts cause I saw this coming from a mile away lol

(not particularly this soon, but soon enough)

Man I was an idiot, with the amount of fails and the honing costs, I dropped 110K gold for my alt to hit 1415. Just feels so dumb as I waited for 1+ month at 1370 patiently. It was literally the announcement saying it wasn’t coming yet that pushed me over the edge. Learnt lesson. Hope you pass this message a long @Roxx

I love you Roxx!!!

Roxx, it’s not you that’s creating the “Good PR”. You are just the public figure that your superiors use.

Of course you wouldn’t want to screw over players in this kind of way.

Companies though have been known to pull these kind of stuns. Just because you wouldn’t have done it, doesn’t mean that AGS as a company wouldn’t. You just weren’t told about it.

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Cmon Roxx, cmon. :clown_face:

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This please. WE NEED THE RESEARCH!

DId you not read the announcement? lul

To @Roxx @ShadowFox - thanks for this stronghold honing update! I’ll buy you guys more than a round of beer/margarita name it, this is good!

Let’s take this as a win folks, one patch at a time.

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and we gettin all the BS downsides like max chars, max abyssal gold, nerfed abyssal gold, endgame korea nerfs which doesnt fit our state of the game…

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Come on AGS and SMG, it’s not like the game is a business where you’re trying to make a profit, just give us everything

Well thanks for the honing research just wish you wouldnt stated multiple times its not happening so I pushed my alt to 1415 just to see the update few hours later…