Respect our Time

With the cadence of content, we have to do more work in our version with fewer materials.

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This has been brought up a few times, I can list in on my report for concerns and have the team look back into it.

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If the decision is made to keep it 2x, can you please give us a reason why?

I heard that the Trial Guardians were actually per character at some point on KR which they changed to the system we have now because it took people too long.

Correct, it is 20 minutes because you should do your Alts once every 3 days, saving 66% of the time but only loosing ~33% of the loot. (double loot every 3 days equals ~66%)

I created 10. Aside from Gold-Limit everything else gets you far more materials if you play more characters less regularly.
To get to the amount of resources you get from playing 6 Characters daily you could play 9 characters every 3 days and cut your playtime in half. (Essentially getting exactly what you want: 6 chaos dungeons per day for the loot 6 characters would get).

Does it take time to pull 9 characters to T3 Mid? (1370 is where they should stop) Yes!
Is it worth it? Also yes!

Thank you for the reply. Can you suggest to the dev team that they really need to run the NA servers differently than KR? Things aren’t the same across regions as you can see with the botting crisis we have.

This is indeed a solution, but we are talking about the majority/mainstream player base. 2x Guardian/2x Chaos Dungeons is nicknamed “homework” and “chores” for a reason.

True, but how would that change if it was just halved?
Then the recommendation becomes 12 chars because 6 was managable and with half the work required after the change 12 would be the new 6.

Other than Gold and free slots nothing is limited to 6 characters…
If the GHL stay this expensive I might even do Oreha Hard and Argos on more than 6 just for the mats (I usually don’t need pots anymore by now - even on the chars that use grudge)…

That’s the whole point, it brings the mainstream up to the 6x character gold limit without limiting those that want to push even further. It’s a win/win for everyone.

More 6x rosters means more players for weekly content too.

Chaos dungeons take 5 minutes.

You have to group for Guardians meaning the time is taken out of your hands due to possibly getting matched with people who have terrible builds and die repeatedly.

1x Guardian is a must change, 2x chaos a day seems reasonable.

u can go thru 6 characters a day in 2-3 hrs, running extra content on the weekends. if u dont have the time dont try to make other suffer for it lol.

For overall I would like that change if you add it with my solution. My thoughts:

  • (big pro) Biggest reason I would agree to this change is indeed less “chores” and more time for more alts or more time for “fun” content or…
  • (big con) Even if you play 1 or more characters you still have 66% efficiency that you can CATCHUP because of rested bonus, we can exactly catchup 2 days before in 1 day. With your system we can only CATCHUP for 1 day before or you need to play multiple days after another (less days to skip in theory).

(solution?) Otherwise you need to let players have the options to run chaos dungeon or guardian raids more than 1 time with rested bonus (you get than 100% efficiency if the loot of rested bonus is not changed). The change is only feels weird on first sight but I think is fine or even good in the long run with more things coming to do in the week of content.

  • (con) if you want to implement your system with my solution its maybe difficult to program with the interaction with infinite chaos (or maybe something else).
  • (pro/con) Maybe for some people is this less a reward that you now log in diligence daily. There is also less to do in the game then but in the long run I think it’s good because it feels less doing all those chores with later the added legion raids or …
  • (con) some people like doing 2X chaos or guardian, now less incentive to do with the no/reduced rewards. But you can’t please everyone.

Bots can farm all day. The propose change wouldn’t affect bots but will benefit human, to clarify.

You won’t be losing a chance of getting a portal if you average things out. 10% chance of getting a portal means 10% chance, regardless of how many times you run it. Things will be average out by law of average. Math and statistic was my minor back in college. I do have a good idea of these concepts.

I think the OP was talking about just the daily aura to do chaos/guardian. Again, bots wouldn’t be affected with this change, but players will gain a efficiency benefit.

I work 12 hours a day, my 3 children barely have enough food to eat. All because I buy royal crystal. stop killing my family

Did you read and understood his/her idea correctly? It’s actually to help make the game more efficient. I don’t see how it hurts anyone.

having to do less mindless chaos dungeons is suffering? lol I have two alts and I would rather do 1 chaos instead of twice a day even if i had 0 alts.

PLEASE. I love this game but I do not love having to do guardian raids 2x per character.

In 3 months of doing this, you will have lost an entire months worth of drops.

That’s just not worth IMO

It’s threads like these in Game feedback that aren’t looking for a solution. Just to complain out of boredom

ehh make alts there is tones of other content to do in the game stop acting like a clown

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Make it 1x Chaos and Guardian per character with double rewards.
I won’t make another character until this is implemented.