RMT and Inflation will be what kills Lost Ark not the game being 'bad'

Lost Ark in western servers was a ‘‘bad game’’ since launch, because of the structure of how the game works. When bot abusers and people that wanted to squeeze money in a fast way saw this game they went crazy. In the moment that the developers or the same players doesn’t give a poop about this and you let them MONTHS of this toxic state, the game dies so quickly cause of the inflation of it and this is the state of the game right now.

You can’t buy in game shop (has a low value) or action house (inflated), you can’t participate in a raid cause of lack of players and/or players toxicity, you can’t build another character cause of the gold efficiency, raids/dungeons/guardians comes nerfed so the ‘‘tryhard players’’ are upset, pheon system, casual players are upset of the amount of gear you need to literally grind cause of low honing chances and proportion of mats, the amount of bots and RMT, the development of SG and AGS… in other words, the hole system of the game is in a very bad state.

I left the game 3 months ago when I saw that my only wanted class (and the cause of I started playing this game) were coming at the end of the year or even the next year. I was that type of player that is called ‘‘tryhard’’ doing a lot of things to increase roster lvl and leveling not 6 but 8 characters to 1415 or more, having 2 characters at 1490 and 2 at 1445, the rest at 1415. I was tired of playing this game and my only ‘‘hope’’ was seeing Summoner in July but it went wrong. With this and the increase of the inflation and the RMT was a ‘‘adios’’ for me.
I want to come back to this game but my friends that has been playing since then told me that is going worse everyday, so, this game, sadly, is gonna die sooner than expected (or being a very small niche game). It’s sad.

I congratz everyone of you that has hope for something or just want to play it for fun.

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The death of the game is both related to inflation and Amazon bans the cheaters from the place where they need to produce a solution to the bots, ensuring that they leave the game. So who knows, we have no information on how many thousands of cheaters were banned and left the game. If you fomo, you will not be able to enjoy the game because you will fall behind. We play the game for fun, the reason why we repeat the same routines is that we are still having fun with the game. Why should we not think of people as being stronger or better equipped than me, or by constantly comparing themselves to people? because that makes us fomo and encourages swiping to be equal like them. but i agree about gatekeeping this creates bad experience for new players and they can’t do most content unless they pay to move it. however, a new player who decides to play this game patiently and regularly will catch up with other players sooner or later, no matter how hard it is. Toxicity is in every game and it is one of the factors that destroy the fun of the game. It’s really annoying. I was kicked out of things like raids many times for not using battle potions before I took away my access to the game. they were judging you, they were oppressing you. In this respect, the inflation in the 0th game is too far ahead and it’s too late to improve. If you still enjoy the game, keep playing. don’t think about other things.

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Almost everything is fixable if they design it better.

Like battle item usage: They could of just give the party a selection of 1 or 2 BI items when they start the raid. If they wish to or need to do more. Uses your own. Seem fair to me.

Engraving: only one of each type of engraving can be used. Like: damaged, support, utility. That way, not everyone will require you to have 3 bis dmg engraving inorder to get pick for a raid.

Una gold: I am 100% fine if they just remove it. Replace it with pheon, leg engravings, bis accessories. Getting them 1 per week is not going to break the economy of this game. Make it Bond. If we are missing that extra gold. Increase our gold earning characters to 7 or 8.

I am no game designer. There are just so many things they can do to make the system better and make players into a less gate keeping troll.

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It has reached 160K, but there is still no movement. Do you really have to wait for people to upload scripts before you can BAN?
Clever script writers already only provide scripts to large robot teams individually, and those scripts are unlikely to reach the general market, let alone be uploaded
You still choose to fundamentally solve the problem, una’s 1040 points, the coin box is their biggest economic source, and you obviously very clear, but indifferent, really will only wait for the version to update together? I’ve never shut down a team that does this, procrastinating, knowing what the problem is and pretending not to know it.

wow, it reached 160k active players, no matter what time zone of the day there were 160k active players. it’s incredible. it’s as if people never sleep and they play 24/7 without eating or drinking at the computer. be patient, most of them are bots, we have at least 30k 40k players.

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Imagine Designing a game, that directly and in-directly promotes RMT.

And then complain about RMT.

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You know Earth is round, right?

In regards to inflation, there is no such thing with this game. I have been repeating this, it is impossible to create “inflation” when there are no commodities (aside from end-game). Everything of value in this game revolves around the end-game. That is why the engravings that I sought after went down more than 70% as soon as Clown is cleared.

What he posted is a clear example Whales or RMT bidding against each other creating an opportunist “value”? Yes Whales are opportunistic too they won’t sell you 250g-400g for 95 crystals when you can earn more than that in a week and what they bidding on is 100k+ items.

actually so true, if only 1 person from their team actually plays the game to some extent they would understand.

I don’t think AGS do anthing against rmt currently. I know a guy who is flexing a lot on discords that he works on 3rd +25 weapon with rmt gold, dude was reported by couple ppl (including me) and 2 weeks later we still see him flexing hard on stupid ppl who try to progress legit way. If they check his logs they would probably find more then 1mil g rmt’ed (personaly know about 500k as he was bragging about it on dc).
I already limit my playtime and prob will just drop when new title will grab my attention.
Love the game but the fact that even when reported, rmt cheaters can do whatever they want is so dissapointing.

dude, if amazon doesn’t do anything to rmt buyers and doesn’t get banned, why should they ban me? Or should they ban other people? they are doing it right now i can guarantee that amazon bots ban players rather than do anything. they stopped doing anything to bots but there is a limit to what they can do right now maybe they changed their system we don’t know anything at least we see that there are more bots than extreme real players in the game and still banning players is not good for the game. +25 weapon isnt impossible right now it may be possible with rmt gold but it is not very difffucult we see that f2players flexing +25 weapons maybe they did rmt we dont know

Im talking about dude that already have 2 chars with +25 weapon that bragged about rmt purchases on discord and calling ppl idiots by playing legit way.
They could really just check all chars above certain ilvl and check if logs for them looks legit. When players see +25 weapon we dont know if it was achieved legit way or not but ags should be able to deduce that by checking logs. Current system is just inefficient af and allows smarter cheaters to rmt without to worry.

The damage was already done, theres no back. Just wait to see who will survive to daily checklist grind and the inflation until Brelsh. Server marges already say that more and more players are quitting

dude ignore people who brag about rmt on discord currently there is no way they can controll people who are above a certain level. this will cause false bans currently the majority of the players base is over 1500+ but like i said if you are jelaous of people breaking the rules like rmt and you think they are not doing aynthing ee they are not banned and let them cheat etc. dude the point is a slong as players pay 20 dollar for 100k gold they do it at the expense of their accounts being suspended is equip their chracters. but my advice to you is give it a try and see if you gets ban or not we dont know if +25 weapon can be obtained legally or not we dont have the things to learn. but the devolopers can of course check it out they have all the date

I hate to say it but the team “is highly aware” is way too late. This isn’t something that just recently popped up, it’s been this way for over a month now if not 2. And honestly, things should have been done or improvements should have been rolled in with the September patch. You did finally manage to prevent bots from freely hacking Thronespire for easy legendary engraving books (which ironically is why they’ve shot up in price), so I’ll give you some credit for that.

However, here’s the issue, these measures all seem like half measures. The “fix” for this issue wasn’t to catch and ban the bots hacking, instead, it was just to prevent them from opening the engraving bags (since they hack at entry ilvl which is 1325). This resulted in them offloading their stash the day before the patch and still getting millions of gold they could just sell.

It seems to be a recurring issue where ags/sg are always chasing the facts. Even now you’re still chasing the facts, you literally just said that the adjustments you’re basically looking at are to improve the game for inflation (aka Mari’s adjustment that honestly does nothing). You even acknowledge that it’s due to bots and RMT, yet you’re looking for “solutions” to improve this. The main solution is in the statement itself. Get rid of RMT/bots, I’m honestly shocked that there hasn’t been a PSA that basically says if you RMT expect a lengthy ban with the gold you RMT’d taken away resulting in a potential negative balance.

The game was bound to have natural inflation over time, but this isn’t natural inflation. Natural inflation through people doing multiple raids a week doesn’t cause blue crystal prices to more than double over the course of a few weeks. Natural inflation doesn’t increase gem prices by 2.5x over the course of <2 weeks.

I really do like this game and I’m just very frustrated that we even got to the point where the situation is so dire. I’m fortunate that I spend on the game and have a good roster and steady income of gold but I couldn’t imagine being a F2P that has only been playing a few months or didn’t capitalize during the earlier days.

I really do hope things change for the better soon, because if we’re going into brelshaza at the current pace then I really fear for the future of the western release.

That wont fix the problem either.
In the last 2 weeks i was in almost each party with 1 or 2 bots. Apart from the fact that they have lvl 1 stronghold and really low lvl roster, you would not be able to tell they are bots. And most of them dont sell gold anymore, most of them sell the engravings or accessories for rmt.
Even busses are being sold for rmt. While waiting for my vykas pt to fill i saw al least 8 pt made for rmt.
The reason why most engravings are so expensive - the really low drop rate, specially in places where ypu are supposed to get lego engravings and you get epic ones. Or the fact that we still have 3 semi useless stats - dom, expertize and endurance. Cuz most of the time you will get a 5/3 good accessory but with useless stats.
It could help if you could do a payed by gold random draw for the stats on that accessory until you get the one you want, similar to the quality upgrade.

Remember when were mad about pheons - yeah, somehow pheons are not the problem anymore. You wont mind paying 25 pheons for a ring as long as it is not 300 k gold and with really low quality.

This is kind of troll and heres why… lets take red stones (destruction for example) it costs 240 blue crystals for 800 so for 1200 gold worth of red stone (current market value) you guys are charging 7580 gold.

How can you as a company and team not see how out of wack this is? Your “tiny” change did nothing and did not even come close to market values LET ALONE below the value to actually HELP with this bs inflation

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exactly all they save is 1 2 or 3 mins its ridiculous
1460+ should be bussing anyway

Its not like 1460+ players lining up to do Argussy
busy wiping vykas or kukl
do busses on weekends when prices higher or early morning

Then u never looked right. Trust me there a many. And the best times are then people are sleeping. And then there are the Gold Grinder that get payd to farm gold too.

And dont forget the “Boost Communitys” that stil earn Gold for Money. And the Gold selled again for Money. etc etc. There was a drama, but its stil dont change.

U know little with your " 8 years " .

The toxicity goes back to inflation tho- 5x3 or 4x3 only
Budget builds trash Only BIS

The casual tryhard f2p w.e. players looks at BiS necklace 3/5 or 4/3
min price for both 180K
max 275K

Exactly who are they selling too the whales/ nolife all geared months ago. The AH is literally RMTers selling to RMTers. It mirrors the stocky market in a way only rich people are playing. Its taking most legitimate people months to lvl up 1 toon based on gold income. That’s far from healthy for a game that pushes alts down our throats. That’s worse than bad thats

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start perma banning those that list those prices on the ah and those that buy, easiest way to do it, but u dont want to do this. its like they’r asking you to do it but for some dumb reason SG is afraid to start perma baniing for RMT. or just ive them 3mil - on the gold and take all back, next offense perma ban