Yeah, I never paid attention it’s actually 1445 for relic sets. Still doesn’t change the fact that you can keep your alt at 1430 until you’re done with collecting mats because every +1 across the board is a big investment.
There’s one key thing a lot of people seem to forget. Global honing buff.
So if let’s say you push now and we get global buff with clown, you’re still losing a lot of gold because people who hone alts even in September would get more value than if you hone them now.
Nice, you’re one of those people that runs through someone’s post history.
Yeah, that’s me.
Date: April 2.
I had 0 alts. Literally 0. At 1400.
What big investment lmao, if you tackle these pushes your entire roster is already 1415+ and outside from GHL (which you use bound) it is literally a joke compared to your weekly income. Raw non-rng included.
You have no idea what you are talking about. By the time your global honing buff arrives people are already done with their rosters.
I mean the post is asking for things that can be solved very simply…just make more alts t3.
The gold and mats generated from that will outdo any amount generated by having higher alts 1400+
for example if im not wrong they can buy 9 more character slots…that’s a lot of mats and gold.
if you tackle these pushes your entire roster is already 1415+
No?
Like I’d really like to see how many people in general have multiple 1415+ alts while being F2P and not playing 10h a day, every day.
My main is 1480 with like 1.5k bound leapstones on top of it and I have 4x1370.
Even with bound leapstones, it’s still like 50k+ gold to get an alt from 1370 to 1415 if you’re unlucky. Fusion mats and red/blue stones aren’t bound. I always take that into account, everything you can sell should be included in the cost. Even without calculating for that, it’s still ~25k raw gold.
Then the gems, tripods, gear and it adds up really quickly.
Idk about you, but I want my alts to be at least decently geared, not half-assed like most people have, alts that more or less contribute nothing and just queue to get carried.
You have no idea what you are talking about. By the time your global honing buff arrives people are already done with their rosters.
You must be playing this game on some kind of paralel server. I don’t know a single F2P that has multiple 1415+ alts and isn’t one of those people that do literally nothing else in the game but just girnd dailies on an army of alts and play 10h a day. I’m not judging anyone, it’s just not the game I want to play.
I finished literally everything else in the game, there will be time for alts. Time to push them to high level way easier.
he won’t even be able to effort a 20-21 gear piece unless he buys silver for gold lmao.
My favorite kind of takes.
Stages I’ve heard so far:
How will you reach 1370 without alts?
How will you get to 1400 without alts?
How will you get to Valtan without alts?
…few months later I was 1445 with 1340x2.
Now my main is 1477 with like 1.5k bound leapstones. And I’ve got not one, but two setups fully done until we get ancient gear.
If I wasn’t doing wandering merchants, I’d already have like 40+ million silver. One alt is like 6 million 1370-1415?
I’m not worried about myself.
Did I also mention that I’m making way more gold now when I’m not selling any mats than I was when I sold everything unbound? Just gotta look past all the blind ilvl pushing strats.
Imagine not having 4x3 equipped alts with decent tripods since the Argos days. Again, stopped reading there. You are too late to the party to argue with those who’ve been where you are at 3 months ago.
Well the guy went from 1480 to 1477 in one comment. He is going in reverse, poor fella.
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Imagine not having 4x3 equipped alts with decent tripods since the Argos days
Two of my alts are 4x3, one is 3332 (Gunslinger, I’m not wasting pheons on lvl3 peacemaker) and 33311 Red Gunlancer.
I got all the tripods on +1 or +2, with some +3. Again, I’m not wasting pheons.
You are too late to the party to argue with those who’ve been where you are at 3 months ago.
Where you at? I cleared HM Vykas in 1h20mins on Wednesday, already got full gear set on my main. Will get 6x bonus next week.
Getting extreme rank PvP in a couple of weeks. Got 89 island souls.
All omnium, masterpieces, mokokos, giant hearts.
Will have 13 Igneas in a few days and got 43 sea bounty maps.
All life skills lvl35+ with just 3 leaves missing. Lvl60 stronghold in a few days.
So yeah, we have a different viewpoint on the game. I don’t think you’re ahead of me in any way. I wouldn’t trade my progression for 10x1415 alts.
Did I write 1480? My bad. Thought about getting +21 weapon, but I’m kinda reluctant to waste 20k+ gold for just honing attempts.
Anything beyond all skill points is just fluff, minus some runes. None of that will matter when you get filtered in raids down the line. But hey, if you enjoy that kinda content - more power to you. Though, I doubt you have half the stuff you mentioned but eh… who am I to judge. You do you.
I think 1370 is an ok spot for outside the top6, but probably doesn’t make sense even with using a giant pile of purple books we now have access to. (too many reds/blues/fusion even with books) So I may leave my #7 at 1340. It already does lopang every day anyways by design of course.
These will eventually just become pure silver workers as they fall further behind the main roster - unless you want to invest a lot just to be able to run more relevant chaos/guardians on the 13th+ run per day, but the return horizon on a 1400s alt earning no gold is incredibly long)
Brother, I rock a Paladin as my main. I get auto invited while you are getting gear checked 
Who asked? See you next time. Cheers!
as long as you keep pumping money you’re fine
Brother, I rock a Paladin as my main. I get auto invited while you are getting gear checked
I can fully guarantee that your setup is bad. Just post a screenshot.
You got 10h a day for useless side content, yet claim a 1415 roster as p2w lol.
f2p in a way of not spending any money into gear upgrades by the way, only money went into the ark pass for the pretty vertus pet and a platinum founder. I’ve also finished most of the interesting collectables, including the more important ones. I could get the last ignea token in a few weeks but I’m not a huge fan of the pony mount and prefer to just use my cerberus mount instead.
So please be silent and get back into your hardstuck corner.
it takes 2 1/2 up to 3h to full gear the entire roster. depends on how many zdps mains/alts of your type I get during deskaluda ( or yoho back in the days)
Looking forward to push my alts onwards to 1445 once I’ve finished my last alt. Could also easily push my main towards 1505, but that seems useless cause we don’t even have kakul out yet.
So please be silent and get back into your hardstuck corner.
How am I hardstuck if I’m clearing the HM of the lastest raid in 1h30min since week 1? And if my main is already beyond the ilvl of content that’s going to come out in late August or September? With enough mats in the storages to push it close to 1490?
Btw, 6x Berserkers lmao.
Let me guess, the’yre all Mayhem? With exactly the same engravings?
Btw, you got 230h more than me.
Considering I’m playing like 35-40h a week these days (way less than early on), I won’t get there even in a month in just playtme.
What’s wrong with that? Literally the best way to go about it if you enjoy playing only one class. Shared engravings, shared gems - doesn’t get more efficient than this.
thank you for all the info. What are you doing as the most optimal method for brelshaza prep?
I am parked (main) at +21 weapon// +19 balanced armors. Armors will go to +20 after clown, and +21 is an option if needed. I didn’t math it but possibly it makes sense to +21 the armors except for glove, use glove as the one reset piece week1 brel and push that one deep for g5/g6? You can save by doing 12 to 13 on the glove rather than 20 to 21 because that’s the piece you’re able to hone on week 1. +22 and +23 weapon on 1340 base gear is so inefficient that I would consider missing week 1 g5/g6 brelshaza over pushing it if it came down to it, as pushing the weapon after reset is so much cheaper.
5x3 engraves (Igniter, All-Out Attack, Hit Master, Grudge, Cursed Doll) and gems are half lvl8/ half level 7. Should hit all 8s easily by then with some above (already holding lvl8 misses to combine up) - perks of building one gem set off an entire roster. Just gotta pray for dmg gem gamba when combining first lvl10 in a while.
I didn’t get lucky on any lvl4 tripods yet, so just the one +4 on each gear piece that was transferred on. (magic amplification for the dmg skills, a variety for the generator skills) All other tripods are +3.