So you release a new class...and make all previously released skins not available to it? Is there anyone who forward thinks on the dev team?

I’ve spent about $850 on this game. I did it all within the first 30 days. Not a dime since. And will now never spend another dime. What is “BEST” is subjective. So no not everyone would all buy the exact few skins out of hundreds or whatever they have total in KR/Russia. And no not even everyone would rush to buy anything. But you’re down to 150k players currently give or take. You had well over 1million players at launch. How many complaints were on the boards for the first month of this game about people wanting to spend money but no skins to spend it on. Well congrats anywhere between 850k and 1.85 million people are no longer playing this game, a good portion that would have likely spent money. Now you have to hope a much higher % of the 150k people spend a much higher amount of money than if you had these at launch. Its not like if they released everything they currently have, no new skins would ever be developed again. There would always be new stuff to buy. Why? Because they keep making them lol. Sorry your argument is counter to logic and making money.

indeed they are releasing the worst sellers first as a way to make money on those skins they wouldn’t otherwise

I had a heated debate with someone in another thread about that exact reasoning, they still didn’t want to believe it in the end lol

So you wasted your money Lost Ark and New World ( in EU for sure) probably will die in a year or less. I agree with everything about classes but why you need skins ? Imo they are suck I dont wanna see another Mr Banana or Mr Potato…

It’s a f2p game, and like many f2p games it had a really big spike at the first month. People tried the game and didn’t like it therefore left it for good. It has nothing to do with skins or anything related with how game is managed. Those “millions of people” you mention didn’t even hit level50. So no they are not missing out on that money.
There has been some posts about skins and people wanting to buy skins. But you know those people who are posting on this forum are actually the minority of this game’s playerbase. Most people are content and they never visit forums.
Regardless whatever I say will be swayed by you with a witty remark like “your logic is faulty because you don’t share my view on the game” I’m sorry but the these are the facts you are overseeing and you’ll likely accept or quit at some point.

Because I have a lot of money and not much left in real life to spend it on. If I sit down to play a game and it has a cash shop and if there is anything I like it in, I buy it. I don’t care about the money. I’ve got the feeling when it comes to online game thats it doesn’t matter what you do if you don’t look good doing it lol. And when I see the multitude of skins in other regions, and then realize the skin I bought here for this new class when it releases is totally useless due to their inept planners/dev’s, well I have no problem voicing my displeasure and taking my money and time elsewhere.

You are outright wrong on every level and thats a fact. I own several businesses. You never fail to capitalize when you have the most eyes, foot traffic, attention etc. You don’t sit there and say to yourself, “no we won’t give maximum effort while the peak amount of people are interested in us, we’ll wait until we lose 90% of them THEN rollout our best of the best so that 1/100 of the people who would have originally spent money finally do” lol. Good god I seriously hope you never own or run a business in your life. And no business I have started or ever owned has ever lost 80-90% of its client base within 3 months of opening the doors or flicking the on switch. If it did I would have closed the doors because it would have meant the business was a failure and likely so was I for not doing the right things at the right times.

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True ppl with who I am still playing Albion Online got to maybe 36-40 lvl and quitted or just started botting, thats how it looks like xd. Those millions will never return, no matter what they do or add.

Lost Ark lost more than 90% playerbase since start already, nobody will comeback deal with it. It was hype, hype gone for MMORPG is very good if it has 40k players in peak. Now we have 150-170k real players so its fantastic.

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Clearly running a gaming company is different then running whatever business you do

for sure they dont care as money keep flowing and they give basicaly minimum effort :wink:
ppls will keep in it as they spent serious moneys/amount of time already (specific case of stockholm syndrome), but taking advantage of it dosent mean buisnes model is good (for clients) beside that its working for money grabing as gaming industry is rather specific case generally :wink:

yea sure m8 :slight_smile:
by this logic we can say wow is grate success as it have around 600-800k of players down from 10mln initially and ~2-4 milions in mid expensions till last “success” :stuck_out_tongue:

This is true, you can check it everytime after patch. 75% of peak are bots.

i know but i have problem with so its fantastic. part :slight_smile:
assuming its not an an sarcazm i havent catch :slight_smile:

Why ? 150k peak is great state why for you is bad ? 150k*24/4 ( lets say 4h is average daily play time) it means we have around 900k active players all over the world.

Destroyer didnt exist when Lawmaker first released. The skin wasnt designed within the timeline of Destroyer being a playable class at the time.

Some skins released are going to be older KR skins that didnt have a certain class at the time, so they wont be inclusive.

thats brave estimation :slight_smile:
i find that hard to belive somehow :wink:
if we go by that logic its drop from 1,3 mln x 6 = ~8 mln on launch to ~900k now in 3 months :wink:

wow did it in 17 years and couple bad decision on the way, not mentioning couple scandals :slight_smile:

btw there is plenty of things wrong with this game and thats meritum of the problem :wink:

  • MM can throw you with 4 supports or none
  • honing is pure gamble.
  • suports strugle in solo content (that is 80% of the game) but they are godlike tier in group content.
  • bots are going rampart.
  • geting dc in argos/valtan, while your group take a kill, lock you out from loot for a week
  • you cant get in second time, without loot, to help friends for instance.

and so one there is just plenty of QOL things everywhere + montisation is plain bad

Like I said NEVER start or manage a business in your life. There are certain things that are universal to ALL businesses. And that is losing 80-90% of your customer base in 3 months is never a good thing. And saving your “best” for AFTER when 80-90% of your customers leave in hopes of getting them back or that you’ll make as much as you would have with 1/10th the customers is total and complete failure to maximize your revenue. You’re wrong and just give up trying to argue it, and again never run start or run a business. You’ll doom it, your investors, your employees and fail you customers.

Ok that is the first tidbit of info I have heard that makes sense. So even in Korea the Lawmaker set for instance was released before the Destroyer class was? Makes slightly more sense now but you’d still think they’d update for future region releases.

No brave it has sense steam achv. counts everyone who has been at least online once so: 8,3% playerbase played more than 50 H it means that 91,7% quitted before, 3% reached 1300 GS … Do you really think a players who played less than 50h quitted due to bad managment ? When they had not even opportunity to face with anything ?

achievments are not really working good in this game (there are countles reports abut that on redit and here)
thats another thing to add to my list :slight_smile:
i would not base my estimation on that

tbh yea, why not?
its not hard to have bad time with honing at break points without heavy reasearch done and reading that “its only getting worse at t3, better quit now” on forums is nothing rare :slight_smile:

I from the other hand do not believe in teenagers’s conspiracy theories :sunglasses: