True ppl with who I am still playing Albion Online got to maybe 36-40 lvl and quitted or just started botting, thats how it looks like xd. Those millions will never return, no matter what they do or add.
Lost Ark lost more than 90% playerbase since start already, nobody will comeback deal with it. It was hype, hype gone for MMORPG is very good if it has 40k players in peak. Now we have 150-170k real players so its fantastic.
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Clearly running a gaming company is different then running whatever business you do
for sure they dont care as money keep flowing and they give basicaly minimum effort 
ppls will keep in it as they spent serious moneys/amount of time already (specific case of stockholm syndrome), but taking advantage of it dosent mean buisnes model is good (for clients) beside that its working for money grabing as gaming industry is rather specific case generally
yea sure m8 
by this logic we can say wow is grate success as it have around 600-800k of players down from 10mln initially and ~2-4 milions in mid expensions till last “success” 
This is true, you can check it everytime after patch. 75% of peak are bots.
i know but i have problem with so its fantastic. part
assuming its not an an sarcazm i havent catch
Why ? 150k peak is great state why for you is bad ? 150k*24/4 ( lets say 4h is average daily play time) it means we have around 900k active players all over the world.
Destroyer didnt exist when Lawmaker first released. The skin wasnt designed within the timeline of Destroyer being a playable class at the time.
Some skins released are going to be older KR skins that didnt have a certain class at the time, so they wont be inclusive.
thats brave estimation
i find that hard to belive somehow
if we go by that logic its drop from 1,3 mln x 6 = ~8 mln on launch to ~900k now in 3 months
wow did it in 17 years and couple bad decision on the way, not mentioning couple scandals
btw there is plenty of things wrong with this game and thats meritum of the problem
- MM can throw you with 4 supports or none
- honing is pure gamble.
- suports strugle in solo content (that is 80% of the game) but they are godlike tier in group content.
- bots are going rampart.
- geting dc in argos/valtan, while your group take a kill, lock you out from loot for a week
- you cant get in second time, without loot, to help friends for instance.
and so one there is just plenty of QOL things everywhere + montisation is plain bad
Like I said NEVER start or manage a business in your life. There are certain things that are universal to ALL businesses. And that is losing 80-90% of your customer base in 3 months is never a good thing. And saving your “best” for AFTER when 80-90% of your customers leave in hopes of getting them back or that you’ll make as much as you would have with 1/10th the customers is total and complete failure to maximize your revenue. You’re wrong and just give up trying to argue it, and again never run start or run a business. You’ll doom it, your investors, your employees and fail you customers.
Ok that is the first tidbit of info I have heard that makes sense. So even in Korea the Lawmaker set for instance was released before the Destroyer class was? Makes slightly more sense now but you’d still think they’d update for future region releases.
No brave it has sense steam achv. counts everyone who has been at least online once so: 8,3% playerbase played more than 50 H it means that 91,7% quitted before, 3% reached 1300 GS … Do you really think a players who played less than 50h quitted due to bad managment ? When they had not even opportunity to face with anything ?
achievments are not really working good in this game (there are countles reports abut that on redit and here)
thats another thing to add to my list
i would not base my estimation on that
tbh yea, why not?
its not hard to have bad time with honing at break points without heavy reasearch done and reading that “its only getting worse at t3, better quit now” on forums is nothing rare
I from the other hand do not believe in teenagers’s conspiracy theories 
game have good gamplay, very good characters and balance, nice amount of skills to press on top of that,
rest is plain bad and in state of permanent alpha
im not sure where is conspiracy in bad designs and lack of polish all over everything that drive pls away over time
Not necessarily because Destroyer was not released on launched in our region. Not every skin is going to be inclusive of all classes if they happen to be older KR skins. It isnt worth Smilegates time and resources to update a year old skin to include all classes. Youll get plenty of other skins in the game that destroyer will be able to utilize. We are also getting region exclusive skins it seems too with the dawn skin line.
Since you fail to graps the reality I’ll make it simpler; when a f2p game gets released it gets hyped by influencers (streamers and youtubers) then tens of thousands people give it a try since its free. These f2p players usually try out the game and a hefty amount of players does NOT spend money on the first month. Anyone who is leaving the game during the first month are not their target audience.
Skins won’t help with people leaving the game because those who have left (80-90% you say) just didn’t like the game and unless you put a gun to their head you can’t make them buy anything.
Show me where I said skins would stop people from leaving, or the only reason 80-90% of the player base left was because of skins…I’m not going to bother to wait since I never said that. Yes FTP games have some of their own and unique intricacies when it comes to revenue. However, and I don’t know how I can beat this into your head so you understand it, there are basic rules of business every single business operates by and it includes FTP games. You have zero business acumen, strategy, or experience obviously. Stop talking about things you have no clue about.
I’m not gonna bother trying to make it any simpler for you so I’ll just end with your first sentence with a slightly different end point. Since you fail to Grasp reality…
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If this game is such good as they described ? No, gameplay is repetative on trailers they showed only fantastic raid fights, but nobody said they are only once per week. My first guild disbanded after 85% players quitted in first week, when they realized they need to play alts. Time gated, braindead content, execpt raids and pvp( I really like pvp in this game) there is nothing to do Chaos Dungs is like olaying Doom Eternal on easy mode, Guardians in T3 takes 3 mins, Una Task boring as hell but u have to do them to keep progress. World Bosses hit die repeat, chaos gates hit die repeat, ghost ships hit die repeat in those 3 contents I do not focus anylonger a just press skill till death stand up and keep doing it xd Pls dont tell me about good gameplay in this game is really average xd
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I mean game quality is subjective to the players preference.