You guys support with the support class? /s
You’d be surprised.
Pally only needs like 3 high level CD gems. Given how easy content is right now, you really think that argument holds a cup of water? On no! Not having drops of ether as a 5th and having 10% CD gem vrs 16% gems is going to make or break the raid! Lmaoooo
You’ve seen a pally below Brel? Can’t say I have since Artist release.
Posts that didn’t age well
Looks like someone is huffing the denialite
Those aren’t level 5 gems.
It isn’t an argument.
Paladin cooldowns are extremely high. You said they only need 3x3 to be highly effective. That’s simply not the case with paladins. Just because you have no idea where the ceiling is doesn’t mean it’s close to the floor.
It’s just cheapo copium, man. It’s the same reason people think their level 7 gems are good on their DPS. It’s cheapo copium everywhere.
I was talking about you, you’re huffing denialite.
Uhhh I main 2 pallys and 2 bards all brel hard ready.
Expert, Blessing, and Awakening. Can you tell me how Vital point + drops of ether is anything but a luxury? Wut? You need it to clear G5 brel otherwise wipe or what?
1700 Swift with 35% CD with level 5 gems at 10% CD is more than adequate for BREL NORMAL. You can rotate DPS buff off each other to keep high uptime and time your shield, awakening, and heals by knowing mechs and map awareness.
You think Pallys even have the mana to spam that often? Lmao
to be completely honest you cant keep attack buff with lvl 5 gems and 1700 swift. I have 1800 swift and lvl 7 gem on one of attack buffs and I still have something under second of downtime. every dps have full lvl 7 gems on brel so I dont see a reason why you cant have the 3 most important ones at least when you already invested 200k golds just into honing to be brel hard ready.
for pally specifically you should always have at least blessed aura, expert, awakening, vital point setup while goin into brel hard. if someone would not have vital point I will probably gatekeep because brel hard is really heavy on staggers.
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You said highly effective. This isn’t a confessional about bad gear. It’s just not accurate. You’ll have garbage uptime. You’ll never sniff radiant. Period.
Edit: I suppose I should answer your question, since you had the sense to ask one on accident.
To me (read: good support player), the main attraction of Vital Point and Drops of Ether would be increased party DPS. Vital allows you to bring dark grenades to just about everything, and Drops can low-key pop off during any burst phase.
Just because people anecdotally say you don’t need it doesn’t mean you are anywhere near the ceiling.
Raids can be cleared with literally no gems. We’re talking about “highly effective.”
This implies buffing your DPS as much as possible, not “I don’t need it” cheapo copium. It’s literally a handful of gold to run it compared to what you would make on a weekly basis. The only excuse for cheaping out is that you don’t care because of how uneducated people are about how supports actually work and what they can do, so nobody holds you to any standard.
I could kill Brelshaza with no accessories or gems on my supports. Why would I troll my party that way?
If your goal is to just show up and go, “I think I’ll cast this now,” and press buttons, fine. But you’re referencing a ceiling that has to do with high level cooldown gems, engravings and battle items.
If your team needs vital point hit at any time in the entire game, you are bad and your team is bad.
Confirmed by all top players especially in KR, btw.
Skill issue.
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thats why koreans always have scrappers/artilerists or vital point supports in groups? ye. deffo skill issue.
lets see how its confirmed by all top players in KR.
80% of paladins have vital point as 4th engraving and they are using 2 blue skills in setup just because of the high stagger.
60% of bards because they need heavy armor so vital point is pushed as 5th
86% of artists. definitely not needed indeed
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Lol nice fake argument based on random screenshots. Go watch their streams and l2p
They take it as qol as there’s nothing else to take. Not because it’s needed.
It’s only needed if you have skill issue.
Im actually curious. if those screenshots of all KR players are random to you. who you are following from streamers? who gave you such a good advice to not go for vital point because its just QoL? xD
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I always get baited into fighting with these people.
No more.
You can just be bad supports. It’s fine. You don’t even want to be good.
If at any point in this entire game you fail a mech because the support didn’t have vital point hit, your entire raid including you, is bad, and they should feel bad.
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You have free 4 engravings from the hyper express.
What else do you expect people to choose as a 4th when it’s free with free level 5 gems. There’s no point gatekeeping sups like the genius I was replying to. Especially sitting on the forums and nitpicking the most braindead support class in the game.
So happy I can replace pally with artist
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