All these new players heard of Sorc Ark online and just wanted to play the game no biggie.
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So you wanna tell me i can bus these Bots without getting banned ?
Banned for what bussing new players. 
Its more about the Gold u get from them that might be flagged, thats what i am concerned about
If AGS/SG can flag gold then wtf is with all these real player hinderance they’ve been doing. 
Someone pull up that quote from roxx bout using the Market when people where scaring each other bout lvl10 gem gold bans XD.
This was actually addressed half a year ago.
Continuing the discussion from Bussing is Over in Lost Ark:
I tried to join their party but they wont accept anyone
That confirms bussing is allowed, but there are non-bot players with low level or new accounts (because we actively encourage any new player who joins to get a bus before anything else) and who’s to say what counts as a suspect username.
Is the bus driver responsible for deciding if some players name and roster level is sufficient to lay dead on the floor while they get carried? Most bus drivers don’t even inspect those who join (why should they)
They say: Can you use the Market to buy a gem/T1 accessory?
If they get a reply, checkbox checked.
Can you move gate to gate without going AFK for an hour?
if they reply, checkbox checked.
Then off the bus goes.
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This was discussed to death in the past. Ultimately, AGS came right out and stated that, yes, bus drivers are responsible to use some reasonable form of judgment when deciding who to bus and the amount of gold they receive for providing such services.
It’s allowed in the same sense you probably won’t get pulled over for going 5mph over the posted speed limit.
It’s not condoned, if you do get struck for it you have no right to argue.
Sure if you are bussing Argos and getting paid 100k it’s going to set off a red flag…
But show me any evidence of a single person doing normal Argos carries for normal payments who ever had a any sort of action taken against them because there were bots in the party.
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People bus bots every day and aren’t actioned against. That’s irrelevant. We are talking about what is against the rules of the game and what isn’t. Just because you get away with it doesn’t mean you aren’t breaking a rule.
Agreed, but once again there is no black and white rule here.
There’s some gray area around being responsible but no where does it say “Thou shalt not bus thy neighbors bot”
AGS/SG allow PF to be absolutely polluted with this problem, PF is filled top to bottom with these groups.
Now sure, you and I we likely know better, we’re on the forums we follow official statements, etc etc. We also make up what, 1% of the player base? The other 99% have no clue what is or isn’t a “responsible bus rider” because nowhere in game, on patch notes, in a banner, in PF, or anywhere else does it specify anything at all about it.
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If you dont try to take advantage of bots you are griefing yourself. They only exist because whales and AGS already take advantage of them, every day, with no punishment.
As long as whales are buying you should be doing whatever it takes to gain bot gold. Or quit. Welcome to f2p mmos.
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I’m more inclined to believe that AGS doesn’t have the manpower or resources to enforce the rules rather than that they “allow” these bussing groups. AGS/SG aren’t some AAA gaming company like Blizzard that can afford to have ingame GMs and a much bigger team to ban cheaters and exploiters.
SG has already stated that they don’t like bussing, but they don’t enforce it. Why? Because they can’t, with a small team. Bussing destroys the integrity of endgame raiding, which is what Lost Ark is all about. So why would it be allowed? It’s “allowed” only because they can’t enforce it.
lol that’s the biggest copium i’ve read today.
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Actually no, Bussing is not destroying anything in the game. In order to progress or doing the latest bus you also need to put in the works and invest into your own gears.
The cost alone as we go to higher iLevel raid required more works etc. so the bus rewards is the result of that work. If not you can just go into it with minimal setup.
I think it’s more an argument of profit vs cost.
If Jeff B landed his rocket outside AGS tomorrow and said I want the bots gone by Friday, it would happen. There is always a way. Absolute worse case they could hire a Convergys call center to manually sit there and delete every bot. It’s not that the problem cannot be solved.
But lets look at this in terms of profitability. This isn’t AGS game, they just take a rake from the sales to host the servers. So why should they spend the profits they are getting on someone elses game to fight problems in that game itself? If LA dies tomorrow AGS doesn’t care, they just wipe the servers and reallocate the resources into something else.
So that leaves SG to care. Now for SG they have to look at it like this. Is it worth tackling a problem that has plagued every online game to date, has no clear path of resolution and will likely cost them excessive amounts of devleoper time trying to combat the problem…
or is it less of a loss to just let it be, do ban waves from time to time and still make profit from the NA/EU launch, even if it is a bot filled mess.
It’s always about the money.
Unfortunately I think they finally caved on this and are about to embrace the bussing culture as another way to keep engagement in the game. Removal of the raid lockouts is a huge win for the Bus game.
SG likely decide why fight it, it keeps people playing the game. I wouldn’t be surprised if we start to see development go into making Bussing an actual game feature, perhaps with it’s own interface and better methods to pay/get paid.
If it keeps people playing the game longer, why fight it. /shrug
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the same “la dies tomorrow ags still profit” narrative again 
lol
nah it wont buff bussing, I think its good, more people to help their friends, less support shortage, bussing will become much much cheaper, there will be free carrys here and there
It’s not a narrative 
It’s costing AGS basically nothing for LA to exist here but they are gaining money from it’s existence. So it stands to reason that if LA disappears tomorrow it isn’t like they have to give that profit back lol.
You could be right about the bussing, it might just become so oversaturated with players that the value of a bus drops to simply not being worth a players time anymore and people use it to help friends and alts run content easier, that would be the dream outcome
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