What troll take mr db main, there’s a reason why many back attackers want to play with DB.
yeah zerk only 6% medium uptime compared to constant 12% back attack with 30% atk speed buffs and on top of that this DB will still out dps zerk ez pz. How is this Troll take?? Obvious DB main spotted.
Organized parties, time their bursts. Thats why they call it a burst window. This doesnt mean you dont attack when the boss is moving.
yep surge blade is op but… let’s NERF SOULFIST instead.
done. releases a new patch. lol
RE ceiling and floor dpm is more narrowed compared to Surge. Surge has high ceiling but also lower floor.
Which mean RE dmg is more consistent no matter what content.
Surge is good at some and bad at some, like clown G2 when the boss jump around too much + cut scene / mechs. You easily lose your Surge even before you can use it.
Update from OP, since this Thread is getting some attention again:
With 5x3 - lvl 9 maelstrom - lvl 7 dmg gems - full relic - lvl 3/4 tripods + wealth runes my damage is finally close to surge-blades.
(I know it’s some investment, but if you’ve done it, it’s MVP city from now on.)
I’am hitting 20 - 25+ mill crits every 5 seconds now.
(5x3 Grudge, Ambush, Supercharge, Adrenaline, RE)
I’d even say that this build is outperforming Surge now - because it is just so damn consistent.
Next in line would be a lvl 10 surge damage gem.
Surge DB is nowhere near as OP as DB Striker
If i had a penny for every time i had friends blades screaming gods and evils in discord whenever clown/vykas/any boss phases/mechs outta the surge id be rich.
It s a very risk/reward class. You either end up top dog or annhilator. Which means aside few fights the class works right.
It has to be excluded from the count things like exotic oneshot boss builds or kunge statistics (kunge is surge paradise) given it takes away most of dps from any class using raid captain while keeping all engr for surge and re working.
It does. Leas punishing on misses too
atleast in random partys if you have a premade support who gives a dmg buff just at the right time nothing can beat a good surge deathblade if all dps classes have equal skill level.
Ever since I properly geared my Surge DB she feels very good to play. I no longer care if a surge misses/doesn’t crit because its so easy to build the stacks back up. As long as I have Dark Axel and knowledge of patterns i can land the one back attack that matters. In that sense she feels very forgiving compared to RE.
It can be annoying when you’re stop-and-go with mechs because sometimes you can’t build full stacks but that’s nothing a bit of foresight can’t fix. If you play Soulfist, you know messing up your Hype window is way worse
Gunlancer/supp/db/crit sinergy will disintegrate anything
I think deathblow striker would outperform surge blade. I also can see shock scrapper up there.
But that also depends on the content. It’s all so subjective.
it allways depends on the conten artillerist can also deal a huge amount of demage if you know what mecha and atacks you can chesse with shield and barrage mode and what not but also lose your main burst if the boss just jumps out of range(or runs faster than your lasers moves)
but if i look at the max potential surge death blade is the number 1 as far as i know and scrapper and stiker close behing the class even the hammer man can deal brutal amount off dmg but well doing this dmg on real fight is another story.
right!! I totally forgot about arti!!
tbh, with balance patches it’s hard to keep track sometimes.
I’m just really bad at playing surge blade, so I do more damage with my db striker. definitely influences my opinion.
well burst classes like this allways have the problem that they need to learn the boss pattern to deal there huge amount of dmg (and that the boss dosent troll nothing makes me more angry than the clown when he jumps away every 2 sec) compared to non burst classes where in the worst case you only miss 1 dmg skill and not your main burst skill you charged with the last few atacks.
DB is strong with perfect synergy and good game knownledge. But without it they are medicore. Also dunno where you test dmg.
In trixion 100% back attack is utterly impossible in real fight
On Kungelanium classes like DB and Igniter sorc simply perform well, cuz they rotate thier cds on downtime when other classes lose uptime.
Next 1490 Guardian is apparently the worst game of guradian raid for back attackers
Lets revisit this thread in a month shall we
I’ve yet to see a surge mvp in clown.
i mvp all gates weekly, 5x3 +22 weapon lvl 9 surge 60 weapon quality 1507.7 ilvl
the sorc in the screenshot is 1516 +25 weapon 96 quality
To be honest, every class can mvp at any time at raid. This is no reliable comparison and has nothing to say at all. Can send you the same screenshots other way around too.