This is true in term of skill floor
But not in ceiling
Exactly. Nothing else to say. But RE whiners always got something to say.
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RE can have 100% cd reduction 75% is like 1200 spec man, it affects all skills the same cuz they all reset after 3 orb surge >.> to be fair without bracelt i only have 95% but cmon
on the actual topic surge def gets harder as you get into more mobile bosses losing surge stacks because mechanics is ass. RE doesnt suffer from that
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Not exactly cd reduc from spec is multiplicative not aditive
But let me exeplain again why cd Reduc dont work the same
Lets take a 30 sec skill and a 2 sec skill
For exemple in 1 min you will 2 30 sec skill and 30 2 sec skill
With the cd reset evry 10 sec you will do 6 30 sec skill and 36 2 sec skill
One is x3 the other is + 20%
Thats actually the oposite since most of surge stack are from spin cutter and the big aoe on the ground
Witch dont get impacted that much by the boss mooving
To explain
Imagine playing surge but only getting stack from blits rush and sould absorb back attack but to compensate they have a 6 sec cd
Do you think this would be harder than current surge
yesss⌠im always confused when RE player says that surge player dont need to back attack our skills, only surge or blitz and soul absorber etc, hell naw man, we surge players back attack 24/7 so we can achieve our optimal DPS, its clearly a misconception, i dont hate RE, full respect to fellow DB 
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exactly. Idk why they keep saying BS like that. Is it hard for them to stay on the backside so they excuse it with âyou dont have to be there like usâ? Its even easier to stay at the backside 24/7 rather than getting to it just for specific skills or surge.
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I think both of them plays the same, if im missing (as an RE player) a maelstorm-soul absorber combo because i dont know the pattern of the boss i lose so much rotation thats almost equal to missing a big surge.
The thing about RE being harder than surge is Only because Surge does so much damage that if you loose any tiny second of uptime as RE you will loose to Surge.
Surge timer once you know the fight it becomes like a choreography where you know what to do and when to do it.
Even if you miss every back attack you can dark axel surge for most of the damage
knowing the fight will never stop the boss from using patterns in which they are immune and they are also not predictable multiple seconds before, the only time a fight becomes almost entirely predictable is when you are so overgeared that you are hitting mechanics back to back and at that point the builds inherent difficulty to play no longer matters
I started with Surge DB since release who is now 1530, and have a 1490 RE alt.
I have never really thought about which one is harder or better I just play the game and have fun with both. Why is everything a competition who cares, just play what you want⌠My outcome in a raid is typically the product of me just being better at positioning and dodging not because I was using Surge or RE.
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So⌠after reading all the replies, maybe we can phrase it like this:
Surge and RE share the same rotation and skills that are all backtattacks.
Surge uses one additional stacking-and-filler-skill, that is on a 5 sec cooldown - while RE uses a 3-4 mill damage skill, that is on a 25sec cooldown instead.
So itâs basically the same skill rotation, yet when it comes to surge, itâs like 3 times the damage of RE surge.
RE might be able to hit 2 surges in the same time, if they can maintain a perfect rotation and the boss allows so.
Missing surge is equally obnoxious for both builds.
ONLY hitting a Surge-Surge is roughly the damage as hitting 2 surges + all skills of RE, tho.
Conclusion:
Want party-giga-buffs with quite a nice damage output on top - Pick a RE Blade.
Want giganto-damage that plays more around himself? Pick a Surge Blade.
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Deathblade class is never looked like nor has to be an assasin. Deathblade is more likely a fighter like Combat Rogue from World of Warcraft. Only Reaper is assasin kind due to its skill set. Demonic and DB are more likely fighters who uses agility and deliver devastating attacks. Plus both specs can take punishment unlikely to Reaper.
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People bring vykas 2 as an example.
Well i have a better one for you. Try doing kakul 2 and 3 with surge and then tell me how easy it is.
- Gate 3 kakul not only for damage to boss, but also to clear flamethrowers and towers during the mario mech
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Troll take, if you playing with any class you get so many synergies, now playing with crit synergy class and if your surge crit because of them then your half the damage belong to that class.
DB and SH are like Rogue and Rogue belongs to assasin.
So you are saying a spec that carries 3 swords and call it assasin? LOL okay.
What troll take mr db main, thereâs a reason why many back attackers want to play with DB.
yeah zerk only 6% medium uptime compared to constant 12% back attack with 30% atk speed buffs and on top of that this DB will still out dps zerk ez pz. How is this Troll take?? Obvious DB main spotted.
Organized parties, time their bursts. Thats why they call it a burst window. This doesnt mean you dont attack when the boss is moving.