Talk to us already about the dps meter

Do you not get it? It is because if they allow external ‘visualisation’ tools like a DPS meter it will negatively impact the game in the LONG run. Your argument for DPS meter is honestly very shallow and short-sighted.

If they allow a DPS meter why bother taking Time Stop to prevent yourself from wiping in a mechanic when you can just take Androphine? ATK did do this in his most recent Kayangle runs on stream (and they did wipe once). People would then not throw whirlwind nades and destruction because it eats into their class animations? You’re creating more problems than you’re solving.

And if you’re still babbling on about “”“balance”"". You can play the most OP class in the game and play perfectly. However, if a whale outgears you and plays with stabilized status and mass increase engraving on a pistooler, you’re not going to outparse him.

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How is this even a good example? Balance means same ilvl with BiS gear set and tripod and gems. Nobody fucking cares about balance at tier 1. We are talking about balance at end-game raiding.

Sorc can obviously be top dps if they never miss any skills. But do you think you will miss zero doomsday or explosion in real fight?

Equal skill does not mean equal opportunity to deal damage. You have never done a legion raid or have ancient gear yet, stop talking like you know about what balance is

Point is if you have to equally geared players with equal skill levels at their corresponding class, the sorc will out dps the soul fist.

That isn’t balance. Im nit daying the game isnt totally unbalanced im just saying making a statement that the game is ballanced isnt true.

exactly the kind of toxic behavior a dps meter would promote :slight_smile: thanks for making the argument even stronger.

never said anything even close to this… NEVER do that shit its annoying and does nothing to further any healthy discussion, if you want to comment on something i said go ahead, if you want to comment on something you made up, then go talk to yourself b/c i never said nor implied anything close to that quote.

you are asking for a stat sheet, something i doubt they will ever make, they don’t even count counters for mvp, and there are plenty of mechanics that are almost imposible to count (right now a example: argos negative seeds, some ppl clear them so the rest of the party can dps and have an easier time)

you just proved it makes you play worse already (just b/c your elitism and toxicity is already making your yoho’s take more time than they should most likely b/c you want to mvp)

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It’s already happening, you have problems.

Brotherman you gotta learn how to read.

like I said, skill has nothing to do with how fights are played. Some fights last 10+ minutes and that is where consistent damage dealers are better. Some lasts 2-5 minutes and that’s where burst classes do better. You can not expect every class to have both sustain and insane burst windows.

Watch the stoopzz, atk, saintone, and benji podcast when they are talking about the PTR balance changes. I havent got the time or energy to flog a dead horse.

Some classes are objectively better than others when it comes to dps, that is a fact. The difference isnt too major but it is there.

No fight that matters in lost ark is shorter than 5 minutes at ilvl.

This is not a losing fight, its already fine if they dont ban ppl that wanna use it, for using it. Shall be banable if someone links and is toxic, fine.
Shall be added only for certain parts of the game, fine.
Whatever.

But I will not step in here and start a discussion with some people here again.
What is this argument, the game is not good, we wanna hide this?
Like wtf, as if we dont know that already.
We just wanna see some interesting addition.
And yes, it will bring em more work probably.
So ppl dont want a better game? just chill…

Id be careful with that line of thought. ToS doesnt allow it and so just like VPNs they’d be free to deny access or even ban players anytime they please. Even if they silently allowed it for a short time like ff14 did with addons and lostark did with vpns. At any time they can ban you and still be in the right.

Relax kid, ima shit my pants.
I´m out, donna wanna speak to them its ridiculous.

I’m probably old enough to be your dad.

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xD Surely not.
And if so, you clearly have some issues if you have a problem with this. xD

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FFXIV cannot know if you have addons or not, the only people getting banned are the one streaming themselves using addons. It will probably be the same case here.

Maybe although ff14 doesnt use easy anti cheat. I know easy anti cheat is shit but your always one update from being caught slipping.

My grandma could cheat in an eac game and shes 80.

No doubt but still you’re always an update away from being caught. Also i dont know how the lostark dps meter works, i havent looked at the code but i remember the director saying lostark doesnt use logs for damage client side and so id guess the addon relys on injection, in which case would be delectable if they went looking.

Stop asking for things that are against ToS
We don’t need dps meter in this game, don’t like it, go flex in another game.

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Reversing packets. Wont go into detail here since this place is official forums blah blah blah

Performance is more that raw dps. What use is just a dps meter when balancing the survivability or party synergies of bards or gunlancers?

Speculation around classes also encourages people to experiment with builds. If you think having a dps meter will stop people excluding classes from parties, you’re well off the mark. It will absolutely enforce a meta with even less room for variation than there is now