
itâs absolutely what semantics means in this context. Weâre arguing about the gold system and what it means to people. The topic remains the same⌠gold system.
What I am⌠not arguing about but I know you want to argue about is what it takes to get there. This is a topic you brought up on your own and want me to engage in it with you lol.
semantics is discussing the meaning of a word.
you cant quote this and call it an argument over semantics
since you already established that effort is either time or money, so i am asking about f2p players who dont spend in game.
you are just afraid to answer because you know these players can be safely assumed to not exist yet
b/c I am choosing to stay on my topic, therefore will make the assumption you disagree with the meaning of the topic gold system. This is the context.
your topic that is
âyou can easily make 10s of thousands of golds if you already spent thousands of dollars in gameâ?
or did you mean something else?
My topic was about showing how to make easy gold by showing the dailies/weeklies gold chart you simply do to get gold. It is not hard to do dailies/weeklies, it is easy lol and itâs not some trick or rng way to earn stable gold.
Yours is about comparing random peopleâs income irl and personal time irl in relation to the gold chart.
and you reach that point by paying thousands of dollars, is that what you also say?
I didnât talk about money?
Time/money is different for everyone, why would I talk about this? Iâm not concerned with your income level irl or free time.
ok, money aside
you can reach 6 1430+ completely f2p at this point of the game on ther 24th of july playing 1000 hours?
1500?
2000 hours?
or even at all?
zero hours? how am I supposed to know a subjective answer thatâs different for everyone?
is this still your point lol
i asked a simple question.
did anyone reach that as f2p at this point?
what is the minimum amount of time it would take the best hypothetical player to get there?
i think you dont get it
if the guy above said âpeople claim they make 200k easily every month, no way you can make thatâ
and then you posted âwell, akchually if you have 18 1620 characters you can easily make 200k monthlyâ
dont you think that would be extremely idiotic to mention that fact?
considering that no one is even close to that?
now imagine 150k and 12 1550
now imagine 100k and 6 1430+
you see what i mean?
you probably dont
you just mention a cute trivial fact, so thank you for what you have mentioned.
Having a roster earning 20-50k gold per week is very realistic for casual 2-5 hour a day f2p players. Maybe instead of typing out paragraphs on the forum you should actually put effort into farming and building your roster. NA version is the least p2w version out there and anyone that are against this is straight up delusional.
He asked about 25k/week I gave a couple 60k/week charts showing the current possibilities.
I mean the chart is free for everyone? make your own examples based on your situation? or do people expect everyone to do all the work for them? seems like a common trend around here.
1475 main
Argos p3 2700
Valtan HM 4500
Vykas HM 4500
Total 11,700
5 alts at 1400
HM Abyssal dungeons 2100
Argos p3 2700
Total 4800
X5 = 24,000
I have 2 more alts at 1370 that are just for extra honing materials.
Total from weekly raids 35,700.
Not including drops from accessories, splits from auctions, legendary engravings, or unas. Also not considering the gold i make off tradeable GHLâs from all 8 characters.
I spent $100 for 12,000 royal crystalâs
I have spent 1,100 on the first purchase chest for 2600 blue crystals. 800x3 for character expansion slots (i havent made my 9th yet but i did purchase the slot already)
And 1500 on ark pass.
I have 7,000 royal crystals left to purchase many future ark passes with. Did not buy a founders pack so i did not have early access and did not start taking the game seriously until almost a month after release.
1600 hours on record.
so you did not understand a single word i said
have a nice day
Sorry i stopped reading your nonsense after the Argos/nm valtan statement. If youâre so keen about the 1430/6 character gold income what is your proof that casual players are stuck under 1445? This is just laughable.
so you know someone with 300 hours and valtan normal mode? lol
as far as i know the lowest was around 600 hours on release
well, casual players are stuck under valtan normal mode, unless by casual you mean people who play 8 hours or more daily, then yeah, these casuals are high level yes
As far as you know, that is not a very good point of reference. Your friends could be collecting mokokos and still stuck in t2. An efficient player can reach t3 under 3 days with feiton pass, 1415 is easily obtainable with 300 hours played. I reached hm vykas with 600 hours played and my only purchase was ark pass, so your 8 hour a day exaggeration is also not valid.
never mentioned my friends, referencing the valtan f2p thread in this forum, which i would assume are hardcore players -the lowest of them having an average of 6~10 hours daily on valtan release-
so unless you have a better reference please mention it, the lowest i have seen so far is a âf2pâ notice the quotes who did it in 450 hours.
lmao, yes, and i reached t3 in 10 minutes with the punika pass.
based on what?
your feelings?
a paid punika pass?
or are you talking about a time traveler who had access to these stuff since release?
and you started playing on launch?
that would be what people would call âa lieâ
i would rather believe hundreds of players i have met and spoken to on this forum than just one random dude trying to make a statement to save face.
anyway, have a nice day, i am going to bed, this discussion is getting boring and repetitive, and yeah sure i believe you 100% you reached vykas hm as a âf2pâ playing 3~4 hours daily, which is barely enough time to even do all your dailies on 6 alts, and in reality if we remove story content and events/islands etc you played 6 characters for about 2 hours daily and got vykas hm lol